From: Nuno J. Silva <nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing 
List Guidelines Page?

On 2011-09-09, Ken Springer wrote:
> On 9/9/11 9:19 AM, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
>> I guess some people who don't know the rules and aren't used to mailing
>> lists (which includes looking for guidelines before posting) are people
>> who would rather subscribe through a web interface.
>>
>> An idea would be, while keeping the usual mailing list stuff (the
>> ability to subscribe by sending an email to a specified address and so
>> on), having a web subscription interface that would drive the user
>> through two or three slides concisely explaining some important rules,
>> and how to unsubscribe.
>>
>> Of course /then/ some people would skip the slides...
>
> I've often thought of something similar, i.e. when a use
> registers/signs up, that use automatically gets a document sent to the
> user's registered email address.  And then have the user acknowledge
> the user has received and understands the posting rules, netiquette,
> etc..  Something similar to having to agree to a EULA when installing
> software.  When the user gets his/her post pulled for not following
> they guidelines (I'm assuming continuing errors in posting, not the
> occasional error where the user may have had a simple brain lapse :-)
> ) they can't claim they didn't know.
>
> And... You could create said document in LO!  ::grin::  But sending
> the user a PDF would be better.  :-)

No, the idea here is exactly to force users through small[1] explanations
*before* they subscribe. That is, said web subscription wouldn't be made
until the user finished the small "slideshow". And to avoid overdoing
it, it should be in plain HTML.

[1] "small" means it shouldn't be the entire contents of RFC 1855 and
additional guidelines, just a simple set of rules.

(And actually, I think sending it as a PDF instead of a plain text
e-mail would be a bad idea. If you're sending it by e-mail, why not just
put it in the e-mail? PDFs aren't good for on-screen reading, anyway.)

Even if the user wants to skip it, they still has to skip each "slide"
to get to the submit form.

Also, a key feature would be that users who are already used to mailing
lists and find the subscription email can easily skip this and subscribe
by mail.

-- 
Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg

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I have refrained from getting on this thread simply because it is a minuscule 
discussion in the grand scheme of the universe. 
BUT this is the kind of attitude that has kept Linux and Open Source software 
in the niche it is in, at least in any part of the tech world I am involved in. 
And out of respect for those it offends I bottom post.
 
GET OVER IT.  
John McAtee
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