Hi,

sorry for the long delay - i've on holidays the last week.

Yes, I can try some thing on a different machine - what should I do?

Greetings

Thomas


Am 29.10.2011 um 16:47 schrieb Tom Davies:

> Hi :)
> In your existing Arch could you just install a virtual machine and try out a 
> few things in there?  Alternatively create a new partition on a hard-drive 
> and use that for experimentation.
> 
> You surely don't need to trash what you do have that is almost perfect in 
> order to just try something a little different!
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 29/10/11, Thomas Knierim <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> From: Thomas Knierim <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] can't print to pages on a single side of 
>> paper
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Saturday, 29 October, 2011, 15:24
>> OK, that's some kind of confusing:
>> Using Ubuntu everything works out of the box! Where is the
>> difference to other distributions?
>> 
>> The Versions are nearly the same:
>> 
>> Cups:
>> - OpenSuse: 1.5
>> - Archlinux: 1.5
>> - ubuntu: 1.5
>> Ghostscript
>> - Opensuse: 9.00
>> - Archlinux: 9.04
>> - ubuntu: 9.04
>> hplip
>> - Opensuse: 3.11.10
>> - Archlinux: 3.11.10
>> - ubuntu: 3.11.7
>> libreoffice:
>> - Opensuse: 3.4.2 OOO340m1 (Build: 1206)
>> - Archlinux: 3.4.3 (build unknown since Archlinux is not
>> installed this moment)
>> - ubuntu: 3.4.3 OOO340m1 (build 302)
>> 
>> So I go back and install archlinux again to see what
>> happens if I install hplip 3.11.7.
>> 
>> 
>> Am 29.10.2011 um 01:59 schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press
>> Productions:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Sorry, I just say the Device option tap showing PDF as
>> the default.  I do not know what "PDF" means in this
>> context, since my printers may have that as a printer
>> language type, as far as I remember.  My HP Inkjet is
>> not a postscript printer, but my Color Laser might be able
>> to deal with that.  I did not see Postscript as an
>> option for the Epson inkjet.  I sure did not read it
>> having a PDF language option.  So something is not
>> right.  Could PDF here mean "Printer Defined Format"
>> for the language used?
>>> 
>>> Can the Postscript type "level from driver" be kept as
>> the "default" option somehow?  Maybe the "Printer
>> Administration" shown was a module of LO 3.4 [at least with
>> Ubuntu]?  I believe that module of LO was designed to
>> set up the printers to run properly with LO.
>>> 
>>> --------------
>>> 
>>> CUPS-PDF - no package for OpenSUSE?   I
>> wondered what OpenSUSE uses as a replacement package, so I
>> looked it up on the site.
>>> 
>>> On the opensuse.org site, 12.1 is in RC till November
>> 16th.  I searched the packages and there are 3 rpm
>> package files [depending on the computer] for
>> cups-pdf-2.5.1-1.1
>>> 
>>> If I read the site correctly, 12.1 is the
>> "opensuse/factory" development version since it still is in
>> development till November 16th.  So the search for the
>> cups pdf package in that and the other version come up with
>> a .rpm file to download and install it.  So it should
>> be in the OpenSUSE version of a repository.
>>> 
>>> http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=cups+pdf&baseproject=openSUSE%3AFactory〈=en&exclude_debug=true
>>> <http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=cups+pdf&baseproject=openSUSE%3AFactory〈=en&exclude_debug=true>
>>> I wonder why it was not part of the ISO that you
>> downloaded to install OpenSUSE?
>>> 
>>> Actually I had trouble with OpenSUSE, the one time I
>> tried using it.  I have an IBM server that originally
>> had SUSE installed on it, so the icon tag showed.  But
>> I bought it with the OS, and everything else, wiped off the
>> 3 SCSI drives that 2002 era P-4 IBM server had.  So I
>> downloaded OpenSUSE [3 or 4 years ago] and tried to install
>> it, but it would not install.  So I ended using an old
>> copy of Win2000/pro till I ended up putting Ubuntu on it 2
>> years ago.  So I never had any luck with
>> OpenSUSE.  If they do not include, in their ISOs,
>> something as simple as the PDF package that is part of the
>> CUPS printer environment, I do not know what to think. 
>> My Epson printer uses a driver that uses CUPS as its backend
>> so I can print using Linux computers.
>>> 
>>> Do not get me wrong, OpenSUSE might be a great Linux
>> OS, since businesses are what it tends to be what it is
>> marketed towards, but I just had one bad experience and did
>> not look back.  I use Ubuntu, and other people tell me
>> to try "such-n-such" Linux distro since they think it is the
>> best you can get.  We have one person on this board
>> that is involved in developing the  Mandriva, which was
>> Mandrake.  I was taught Linux using Mandrake 7.x, back
>> 10 to 11 years ago [if I remember correctly, and I still
>> have a CD of it].  That one is in the top 10 of the
>> list of distros I came across on a distro watch site. 
>> OpenSUSE is on that list as well.  Arch Linux is
>> considered an advanced user distro while OpenSUSE is a
>> "middle-of-the-road" one. Their terms, not mine.  But
>> we each have our favorite ones.  I have mine and you
>> have yours.  That it what it should be.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/28/2011 12:04 PM, Thomas Knierim wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> Am 28.10.2011 um 15:36 schrieb webmaster for
>> Kracked Press Productions:
>>>> 
>>>>> I do not know about why PDF is set as the
>> default for that printer.  I never saw an HP printer
>> use PDF as a default language for the printer.
>>>>> 
>>>> The Printer Language is set by LibreOffice. If you
>> open the print dialog, klick on the printer and then on
>> properties you get a new window. Select the tab device and
>> here you have the printer language PDF (don't know if the
>> Words of the tab etc. are correct since I use a german
>> version). Again: setting this to PostScript (Level of the
>> Driver) resolves the problem - but that are too much clicks
>> for a print job.
>>>> 
>>>>> Did you download and install the HP drivers
>> for Linux?  Here is the link to the site.
>>>>> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
>>>> Yes I have the newest Version installed. The most
>> recent version is 3.11.10...
>>>> 
>>>>> I have two HP printers.  Color Laserjet
>> 2600n and PSC1410.  I needed these updated drivers to
>> make the printers work the best for Ubuntu Linux.  When
>> you run the file in the Terminal [instructions are given on
>> the site], it should ask about which OS and printer you
>> have, before you download the needed file.  Then when
>> you run the script, it will download everything that is
>> needed and install the needed packages for you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This may help, if you did not install the
>> drivers.  I found that the drivers included with Ubuntu
>> 10.04 was not as good as the most up-to-date ones from that
>> site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The system shows the OS for SUSE 11.3 and
>> 11.4, and you will have to page down the printer list a long
>> way to get to your printer, after you select OfficeJet Pro
>> as the type of printer.  I do not see ArchLinux, but
>> you should be able to use the driver from the parent OS like
>> Debian, Ubuntu, SUSE, Fedora, etc., whatever it is.  It
>> shows the same version for the package as you listed, but so
>> did Ubuntu, but for some reason when I installed the version
>> from this site, it seemed to work better.  Actually, I
>> just realized that I am running an older version than is
>> online, so I will be upgrading it myself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> IF you still have the problems, make sure you
>> use the non-PDF language for your default printer
>> language.  HP's language or Postscript language is
>> preferred.
>>>> ... PDF is set in LibreOffice (see above) :(
>>>> 
>>>>> As for CUPS, did you install CUPS-PDF from
>> your package manager?  That is my default way to print
>> out PDF files, even from LibreOffice [most of the time].
>>>> In OpenSuse 12.1 (standard) there is no package
>> called cups-pdf
>>>> 
>>>>> As for the 2 pages per sheet, the orientation
>> for the sheet should be landscape.  If it is otherwise,
>> then there is a problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/28/2011 08:38 AM, Thomas Knierim wrote:
>>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> this is my first post in a mailing list -
>> so please be patient.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a strange problem - and I have to
>> admint: I don't know if it belongs to llibreoffice only. So
>> here is the Problem:
>>>>>> I'm using a HP Officjet Pro k8600dn and I
>> can't print to pages on a sheet of paper. If I start a print
>> job the paper gets loaded and the printer hangs. I could
>> only bring it back to live if I switch it off and on again.
>> The problem does only appear if the printer language is set
>> to PDF (the default) in LibreOffice. If I set it to
>> PostScript (level of the driver) the printer works as
>> expected.
>>>>>> On the other hand: I have an old HP
>> Laserjet 5L. With it the two-pages-on-a-sheet-printing works
>> (but the orientation is wrong - but that's another
>> problem).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is my software:
>>>>>> OperationSystem: Linux (OpenSuse RC1 or
>> Archlinux - both the same error)
>>>>>> LibreOffice: 3.4.2
>>>>>> CUPS: 1.5.0
>>>>>> hplip: 3.11.10
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings tknierim
>>>>> 
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