On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 13:07 -0500, Ethan Swint wrote:
> 
> On 2/16/2012 12:38 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 11:32 -0500, Calvin Kim wrote:
> >> On 02/15/2012 09:00 AM, Ethan Swint wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 2/14/2012 8:18 PM, Calvin Kim wrote:
> >>>> On 02/14/2012 12:00 PM, Ethan Swint wrote:
> >>>>> I've been frustrated with my experience trying to anchor frames
> >>>>> (containing figures and captions). What I'd really like to do is
> >>>>> anchor a frame to a character (which refers to the frame's
> >>>>> contents), but not force a large white space on the page if the
> >>>>> anchor character and the frame don't fit on the same page.  In other
> >>>>> words,
> >>>>> A) Obtain the reference character's Y coordinates, Cy
> >>>>> B) Obtain the frame's Y dimension, Fy
> >>>>> C) Obtain the text area's Y dimension, Py
> >>>>> C) If Py- Fy>  Cy, place frame at bottom of character's page
> >>>>> D) else, place frame at top of page following character's page
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is this possible with LO Writer? What I've been forced to do at this
> >>>>> point is to anchor the frame to the page, then move all of the
> >>>>> frames in the document when my edits move text.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>
> >>>> If you anchor an object to a character, your object will be treated
> >>>> as a character. That's why there are large white space on the line of
> >>>> your object due to its height.
> >>>> Instead, anchor it to a paragraph. Then you have freedom to move your
> >>>> object around.
> >>>  From my experience, what you're describing is anchoring 'as' a
> >>> character; I'm anchoring 'to' a character, as anchoring 'to' a
> >>> paragraph isn't specific enough for my document. The problem comes
> >>> when the page break falls such that a full page would require the
> >>> character to be on one page and the frame to be on the next.
> >>>
> >>> I've looked, but I haven't uncovered a mechanism in LO Writer to deal
> >>> with this situation satisfactorily.
> >>>
> >>> -Ethan
> >>>
> >> I see what you are trying to do. I had similar cases few times, and each
> >> case, I have to adjusted it manually. But if there are many graphics and
> >> many updates of contents, it will be time consuming.
> >>
> >> I don't think LO offers anchor "to" a character.
> >> 'Anchor to paragraph' is like anchor to first character of paragraph.
> >> Maybe you can request new/modified feature to development team to anchor
> >> "to" character, or anchor to paragraph but you can anchor it anywhere in
> >> paragraph.
> >>
> >> cK
> >       LO allows you to anchor a graphic to page, to paragraph, to
> > character, and as character. And if the graphic has be inserted into a
> > frame, you can also anchor the graphic to frame. This is true for 3.4.5
> > and 3.5.0.
> >       One thing I discovered when testing this: when the graphic was
> > anchored to a character, the graphic could be moved around just as it
> > can be moved when anchored to a paragraph. That means for a paragraph
> > with a graphic at the bottom of the page, the graphic can be placed
> > above the paragraph, below it, or in the middle of it. This might be
> > what you are seeking.
> I've tried anchoring to a character, but the problem arises when the 
> anchor character is close to the bottom/top of the page and is displaced 
> by the frame/graphics object. In that case, I'd like the image to be 
> placed on the following page of the document. The behavior I've seen is 
> that both the paragraph and the image get forced to the following page, 
> leaving a large blank space on the page that I don't want.
> 
> -Ethan

     I'm sending you two .odt files with pictures at the bottom of the
page. (They are the same except for where the graphic in a frame is
located and how the frame is anchored to the page.) Sample one has the
frame anchored to a character, and Sample 2 has the frame anchored as a
character in an empty paragraph.
     (Since the mailing list strips all attachments, the other people on
this mailing list will not see the attachments, but since I am CC to
you, you will get the attachments in a separate email.)

--Dan



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