Hi :) It is quite possible that openSuSE don't allow 3 character sequences. They are one of the longest running distros that are still active and they tend to go their own way. I get the impression they aim slightly more at corporate users and offer better traditional forms of tech-support which Canonical are also trying to add on as options in their support. Apparently openSuSE contribute something like 25% of LO coding work! A fantastic and much appreciated organisation :))) Regards from Tom :)
--- On Wed, 18/4/12, Doug <[email protected]> wrote: From: Doug <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] select en-dash and em-dash characters To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 18 April, 2012, 19:38 On 04/18/2012 01:30 PM, Thomas Taylor wrote: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:10:18 +0200 > Johnny Rosenberg<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Den 17 april 2012 22:32 skrev Thomas Taylor<[email protected]>: >>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:09:31 +0200 >>> Johnny Rosenberg<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Den 16 april 2012 22:36 skrev Séamas Ó Brógáin<[email protected]>: >>>>> Regina wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> They are usually written via AutoCorrect. The simple hyphen is replaced >>>>>> with the en-dash or em-dash when the following word is finished . . . >>>>> That is _not_ a good idea. The hyphen, en rule and em rule (dash) are >>>>> distinct characters with distinct uses in conventional typography and >>>>> typesetting. Their correct use cannot be predicted by context, nor are >>>>> they interchangeable. >>>>> >>>>> You need to find out where these characters are in the character set you >>>>> are using. This depends on your operating system, your language, and >>>>> your keyboard layout. >>>>> >>>>> As Johnny pointed out, they can be entered with the compose key. If you >>>>> use them so often that even this is too cumbersome you can customise >>>>> your keyboard layout, >>>> That's actually what I did (called ”Sweden Johnny Rosenberg”, >>>> available on my computers only…), but I didn't mention it because I >>>> thought it could be a bit tricky… >>>> I have the en-dash at AltGr+- and the em-dash at AltGr+Shift+-. I also >>>> did a lot of other modification, like removed all my numbers from the >>>> first row (I already have them on the num pad to the right – why have >>>> them at more than one place?) and moved some Shift+number combinations >>>> so I don't need Shift for characters like ”!#%&/” and so on. I even >>>> made labels to put on my keys, but most of them was worn out after a >>>> couple of weeks of typing… >>>> >>>> To change the layout (or rather add a new one in this case), you need >>>> to fiddle with three files (at least in Ubuntu): >>>> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.lst, /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml >>>> and /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/<the file representing your language>, >>>> more on that another time… >>>> >>>> Ok, this was a bit off topic… >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Johnny Rosenberg >>>> ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ >>>> >>>>> so that (for example) compose-hyphen gets you the >>>>> en rule and shift-compose-hyphen gets you the dash (em rule). If you >>>>> want to do this I will help you (but only if you use GNU/Linux!). >>>>> >>>>> You could, as Johnny suggests, create your own auto-correct sequences, >>>>> but personally I would avoid all such contrivances. Auto-correct is >>>>> _not_ your friend. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] >>>>> Problems? >>>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>>>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All >>>>> messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>>>> deleted >>> Hi Johnny; >>> Out of curiosity, what is AltGr+ ? Alt is of course the "Alt" key on the >>> keyboard but which key is Gr? My keyboard (an old IBM windows model) >>> doesn't have such a key. >>> >>> Thanks, Tom >> I saw that someone already answered, but I'll reply anyway. >> The ”+” does only mean that the key is hold. So Alt+Shift+x means that >> Alt, Shift and x is pressed simultaneously, or at least that no key is >> released before the other keys is pressed. >> The compose key doesn't work that way, therefore no ”+” sign: ”Compose >> --.” means ”hit the Compose key, release it, then type --.”. > <<<<< snip>>>>> > > Hi Johnny ;) > The problem with the above is that in openSuSE the compose key only allows > two > (2) keystroke combinations, not three (3). "Compose -./--" do not insert > anything. To me, this is just a point of education as I don't use dash m/n in > my writing. Just trying to learn a bit. > > Thanks for any further explanation. > > Tom > I should think that a bug report to OpenSuse is in order! --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. 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