Here's something more about passwords (not digital signatures) if you are going 
to take password-based actions with ODF documents:  
<https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oic/Advisories/00009-ProtectionKeySafety/trunk/description.html>

This message is not about the provision for digital signatures, since that is 
not password based.  However, the encryption is password based and the 
encryption is not very strong (and that has nothing to do with whether AES or 
Blowfish are used).

Here's more about ways to either not be exposed to password discovery 
(AUTHZ160) or to use a password based scheme that is harder to use in 
determining a password (SHA1DK):
<https://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/OFFICE-3703>.

In case y'all somehow missed it, there has recently been massive successful 
attacking on passwords for web services.  The key problem is that the password 
itself tends to be vulnerable to discovery by using stolen or disclosed hashes 
for them.  While use of salts helps against opportunistic attacks, it will not 
deter a determined attacker who can crowd-source an attack using readily 
available personal computers.  In fact, the situation is so bad that the 
provider of a web service with millions of user accounts can't tell the 
difference between a prank and an actual hack:
<http://orcmid.wordpress.com/2012/06/07/password-security-1-social-engineering-an-sha1-hack/>.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Davies [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Signing Documents with a personal Certificate

Hi :)
Leet speak is a fav.  Some sites said it was weak, others said it was fairly 
tough.  The length of a poem would radically increase the strength!  Even a 
little verse would be great.  
Regards from
Tom :) 

--- On Thu, 21/6/12, Marc Grober <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Marc Grober <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Signing Documents with a personal Certificate
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, 21 June, 2012, 16:02

Use a phrase from a poem that you like and substitute - like 0s for os

On 6/20/12 11:50 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> 1 lower case letter, 1 upper case letter, a number, white space and a
> misc symbol, a second additional point for having it over 30 characters
> and don't include any section of your name, or password or email address
> or if it matches a word from the English dictionary.
> 
> Hows an over 50 supposed to remember a password like that!!
> 
> On 2012-06-21 17:47, Marc Grober wrote:
>> https://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=1
>>
>> On 6/20/12 6:14 PM, James Knott wrote:
>>> Marc Grober wrote:
>>>> get a cert from CACert.org
>>> Hmmm...
>>>
>>> I just tried going to that site and got this:
>>>
>>> "This Connection is Untrusted
>>>
>>> You have asked Firefox to connectsecurely to www.cacert.org, but we
>>> can't
>>> confirm that your connection is secure.
>>>
>>> Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted
>>> identification
>>> to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's
>>> identity can't be
>>> verified.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What Should I Do?
>>>
>>> If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could
>>> mean that
>>> someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue."
>>>
>>> Not good for a certificate site.
>>>
>>
> 


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