I was mistaken as to which version of MO I learnt to use as a 5 year old. It was MO 2000 not 2003. I am 16 not 14 also!
On Thu, 9 Aug 2012, at 10:10 PM, Dan wrote: > Dan wrote: > > T Hopkins wrote: > >> The ribbon interface is definitely MO's big vulnerability. > >> > >> I would also argue that continuing development and promotion of Base is > >> important. In > >> particular, decreasing the accessibility curve and making the usefulness > >> of Base more > >> apparent to users. > >> > >> Cheers, tod > >> > >> Tod Hopkins Hillmann & Carr Inc. todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com > > > > I agree. But where are the people who are willing to write the Base > > Guide? This takes time. I have been > > working on this project since OOo 2.0. (OK, I may be rather slow.) I just > > completed a rewrite of chapter 2 > > this afternoon. Rewrites of Ch 3 & 4 should take less time. Furthermore, > > there are very few volunteers to > > review my work. Then they need to be proof read for grammar, spelling, etc. > > > > --Dan > > Addendum: The first four chapters for the Base Guide in draft form > are available at > http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/db3/dbg3_draft. > These were written for OOo 3.3.0. For LO, chapter 1 has already been > published. > > --Dan > > > >> On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Jay Lozier wrote: > >> > >>> On 08/09/2012 02:43 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > >>>> On 08/08/12 22:26, T Hopkins wrote: > >>>>> The difference in cost of the initial license, when considered from the > >>>>> full > >>>>> deployment/productivity calculation of an IT manager, is often not the > >>>>> deciding > >>>>> factor. The primary cost of changing software is not the license, but > >>>>> installation, configuration, training, and lost productivity during > >>>>> conversion. > >>>> > >>>> The total costs of all that would be FAR lower by converting from Office > >>>> 2003 or > >>>> any of its predecessors to LO compared to converting to Office > >>>> 2007/2010.....users > >>>> could at least get going almost immediately with LO whereas the new > >>>> ribbon seemed > >>>> to be almost unfathomable to a lot of people, so yes, going from one > >>>> version of MS > >>>> Office to a SIMILAR version (as in Office XP to Office 2003 or Office > >>>> 2007 to 2010) > >>>> I agree. Going from a menu-based Office to a ribbon-based Office no, I > >>>> don't > >>>> agree. > >>>> > >>> AFAIK, MSO 2007/2010 are the only major packages that use the ribbon > >>> interface. All > >>> other recent Windows software I have seen still uses the traditional > >>> menus. IMHO most > >>> users can adapt to a reasonable menu layout fairly quickly; it is more > >>> about finding > >>> how to access a command than fighting the interface and finding the > >>> command. > >>> > >>> I would expect most users could "learn" the LO fairly quickly because it > >>> is same > >>> familiar menu style interface they are using on most packages. > >>> > >>> The total cost to install includes rolling out the software to the users. > >>> If a > >>> company is not planning a major office suite roll out then converting to > >>> any other > >>> suite will not occur. The ideal time to convert an organization is when > >>> they are > >>> planning to replace their current suite. Then the a comparison of all > >>> costs makes > >>> sense. > >>> > >>> -- Jay Lozier [email protected] > >>> > >>> > > > >> > > > > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- [email protected] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
