Hi :)
Testing Pdf readers is an SEP (=somebody else's problem).  It would be good if 
we can liase with other office apps such as email-clients and database 
back-ends but our primary concern is LibreOffice.  I agree that if a 3rd party 
tool is being used then we can only use it as an indicator rather than having 
complete confidence in the result.  
Regards from
Tom :)  






>________________________________
> From: Felmon Davis <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2013, 13:46
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Quality Assurance
> 
>On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Tom Davies wrote:
>
>> Hi :)
>> Do you know if it isn't?
>
>no.
>
>the conclusion?
>
>I wouldn't assume I could depend on its results without further investigation. 
>that's why I asked the OP why this particular test instrument.
>
>>   I think it's a good idea to check the integrity of Pdfs that are output.
>
>sure.
>
>>   often we focus tooo much (imo) on the integrity of MS formats which will 
>> always look different on every machine.  People seem to be using Pdfs quite 
>> a lot more now and it would be nice to know that ones we create work 
>> properly, or at least consistently.
>
>we also need to know our pdf readers work properly or at least consistently.
>
>F.
>
>> If specific potential problems can be pinned down then i think we are in a 
>> better position to have more confidence in our outputs.  Bear in mind that 
>> Pdf output is significantly better in LibreOffice than in MSO.  LO offers 
>> far more options and some of those improve accessibility (specifically 
>> better for screen-readers) and for uncompressed or more compressed output.  
>> MSO offers freedom FROM choice. 
>
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Felmon Davis <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2013, 4:23
>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Quality Assurance
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, C. H. D. wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello!
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for this idea. I report a bug related to LibreOffice.
>>>> 
>>>> I guess, there must be something different if DiffPDF says the two PDF 
>>>> files are different. (maybe visible in Document Viewer (Evince) or in 
>>>> Adobe Reader)
>>>> 
>>>> I look for that difference and report the bug accordingly.
>>> 
>>> (to repeat the question) you are certain diffpdf is reliable?
>>> 
>>> F.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> C. H. D.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- 2013年1月16日 星期三,Felmon Davis <[email protected]> 寫道﹕
>>>> 
>>>> 寄件人: Felmon Davis <[email protected]>
>>>> 主題: Re: [libreoffice-users] Quality Assurance
>>>> 收件人: [email protected]
>>>> 日期: 2013年1月16日,星期三,上午7:13
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, C. H. D. wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Recently, I started learning more about computer software. (I am new and 
>>>>> I do not know too much about programming.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do not know how to rate the quality of the office application. If I say 
>>>>> this is good, I will expect that the document is displayed in the _same_ 
>>>>> way, e.g. in the previous version and the next version and the subsequent 
>>>>> version and the future versions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I spent some time on doing (experimenting?) this. I searched the Internet 
>>>>> and looked for OpenDocument files I can download. They are random (just 
>>>>> searched by some random keywords).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did:
>>>>> LibreOffice 3
>>>>> File -> Export as PDF -> PDF/A-1a -> Export
>>>>> 
>>>>> LibreOffice 4
>>>>> File -> Export as PDF -> PDF/A-1a -> Export
>>>>> 
>>>>> There were tens of files. I used DiffPDF to compare the differences. If I 
>>>>> notice a difference, I will report a bug.
>>>> 
>>>> [...]
>>>> 
>>>> do you report a bug about LO or a bug about DiffPDF?
>>>> 
>>>> F.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Felmon Davis
>>>> 
>>>> According to all the latest reports, there was no truth in any of the
>>>> earlier reports.
>>>> 
>
>-- Felmon Davis
>
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