Whew, I've never touched that key;
           will alarms & sirens go off when it's touched  ;-)



On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

Hi :)
> The button that worries me is the "Windows key" with the MS logo on it.
> Are the police likely to knock down my door now that i have painted over it
> with a rather bad copy of the Ubuntu logo?  Also why does Ubuntu store sell
> a keyboard with the Windows logo on that key?!!
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> >
> > From: Eric Beversluis <ebe...@researchintegration.org>
> >To: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >Cc: Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>; "
> users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
> >Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013, 15:50
> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] page down in word processors
> >
> >But the issue is now what it's called. The problem is that it doesn't
> >screen down consistently, giving a full new screen save for a consistent
> >one- or two-line overlap at the top.
> >
> >On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 15:25 +0000, Tom Davies wrote:
> >> Hi :)
> >> Yes, the button probably should say "Screen down" instead of page down
> for most uses of the button and only say "Page down" for those rare cases
> where it really does mean a page.
> >> Regards from
> >> Tom :)
> >>
> >> PS blimey a short answer for once!!  lol
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > From: Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>
> >> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >> >Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013, 15:15
> >> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] page down in word processors
> >> >
> >> >At 09:35 15/02/2013 -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote:
> >> >> Something I've never figured out--and seems true of LO/OO as well as
> M$ Word: When reading through a document, one hits 'PgDn', but one doesn't
> get a new page--it only scrolls down some seemingly arbitrary number of
> lines. One has to scan the new screen to see what one left off reading and
> one may only have gotten a half page of new reading for the effort.
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe I'm spoiled by e-readers. But maybe, even after all these
> years, I haven't figured out how to do this correctly in a word processor.
> >> >
> >> >I think you are missing the different functions of the two sorts of
> software.  E-readers are what they say they are: readers.  In other words,
> their users are using them to read documents.  More than that, in general
> they will be reading the documents sequentially: when they get to the end
> of one page, they will next want to see the next page.  And the only sense
> of "page" is as much as fills the screen of the display device.
> >> >
> >> >Word processors are quite different.  In general, they are still
> fixated on printing the final document: the page size is the format of the
> eventual supposed printed version, not necessarily (and not usually) the
> size and format of the screen used for display.  People usually choose
> settings that display less than a printed page of a document; if you were
> looking at such a screenful and then moved down a full page, you would
> unhelpfully have missed part of the text.
> >> >
> >> >But the bigger point is that a word processor is designed for editing,
> not reading.  If you are editing at one point in a document and you now
> need to move down to a point currently off your screen image, it is not at
> all obvious - quite unlikely, in fact - that you would want to move to a
> following page.  It is much more likely that you would want to be able to
> see some part of the document further down but whilst also still seeing the
> part on which you had just been working.
> >> >
> >> >The original model, then, is that no-one would read documents on
> screen but only from hard copy.  It is interesting that software has been
> moving towards servicing screen reading, albeit rather slowly.  Microsoft
> Powerpoint allows you to save a presentation as a "slide show", in which
> case it opens for any recipient as for display, not for further editing.
> Microsoft Word has a reading mode, which displays screenfuls - not
> necessarily in the original layout - and in which your page down function
> works as you want.  There is also a freeware Word Viewer available from
> Microsoft, intended for users without Microsoft Word installed.  Again,
> since this is a reader and not an editor, it responds to page down requests
> by moving down a screenful.  Oh, and try opening a read-only file with
> LibreOffice Writer: I think you'll find that it will now treat "page down"
> differently and move down (almost) a screenful.
> >> >
> >> >Should word processing and similar software provide an explicit
> reading mode for use in reading, not editing, documents?  Possibly.
> Meanwhile, if you want something close to this behaviour in Writer, here's
> your workaround: just click the Edit File button in the Standard toolbar to
> toggle on this behaviour.
> >> >
> >> >I trust this helps.
> >> >
> >> >Brian Barker
> >> >
>

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