Whew, I've never touched that key; will alarms & sirens go off when it's touched ;-)
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>wrote: Hi :) > The button that worries me is the "Windows key" with the MS logo on it. > Are the police likely to knock down my door now that i have painted over it > with a rather bad copy of the Ubuntu logo? Also why does Ubuntu store sell > a keyboard with the Windows logo on that key?!! > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > > > From: Eric Beversluis <ebe...@researchintegration.org> > >To: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> > >Cc: Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>; " > users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> > >Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013, 15:50 > >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] page down in word processors > > > >But the issue is now what it's called. The problem is that it doesn't > >screen down consistently, giving a full new screen save for a consistent > >one- or two-line overlap at the top. > > > >On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 15:25 +0000, Tom Davies wrote: > >> Hi :) > >> Yes, the button probably should say "Screen down" instead of page down > for most uses of the button and only say "Page down" for those rare cases > where it really does mean a page. > >> Regards from > >> Tom :) > >> > >> PS blimey a short answer for once!! lol > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > From: Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com> > >> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org > >> >Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013, 15:15 > >> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] page down in word processors > >> > > >> >At 09:35 15/02/2013 -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote: > >> >> Something I've never figured out--and seems true of LO/OO as well as > M$ Word: When reading through a document, one hits 'PgDn', but one doesn't > get a new page--it only scrolls down some seemingly arbitrary number of > lines. One has to scan the new screen to see what one left off reading and > one may only have gotten a half page of new reading for the effort. > >> >> > >> >> Maybe I'm spoiled by e-readers. But maybe, even after all these > years, I haven't figured out how to do this correctly in a word processor. > >> > > >> >I think you are missing the different functions of the two sorts of > software. E-readers are what they say they are: readers. In other words, > their users are using them to read documents. More than that, in general > they will be reading the documents sequentially: when they get to the end > of one page, they will next want to see the next page. And the only sense > of "page" is as much as fills the screen of the display device. > >> > > >> >Word processors are quite different. In general, they are still > fixated on printing the final document: the page size is the format of the > eventual supposed printed version, not necessarily (and not usually) the > size and format of the screen used for display. People usually choose > settings that display less than a printed page of a document; if you were > looking at such a screenful and then moved down a full page, you would > unhelpfully have missed part of the text. > >> > > >> >But the bigger point is that a word processor is designed for editing, > not reading. If you are editing at one point in a document and you now > need to move down to a point currently off your screen image, it is not at > all obvious - quite unlikely, in fact - that you would want to move to a > following page. It is much more likely that you would want to be able to > see some part of the document further down but whilst also still seeing the > part on which you had just been working. > >> > > >> >The original model, then, is that no-one would read documents on > screen but only from hard copy. It is interesting that software has been > moving towards servicing screen reading, albeit rather slowly. Microsoft > Powerpoint allows you to save a presentation as a "slide show", in which > case it opens for any recipient as for display, not for further editing. > Microsoft Word has a reading mode, which displays screenfuls - not > necessarily in the original layout - and in which your page down function > works as you want. There is also a freeware Word Viewer available from > Microsoft, intended for users without Microsoft Word installed. Again, > since this is a reader and not an editor, it responds to page down requests > by moving down a screenful. Oh, and try opening a read-only file with > LibreOffice Writer: I think you'll find that it will now treat "page down" > differently and move down (almost) a screenful. > >> > > >> >Should word processing and similar software provide an explicit > reading mode for use in reading, not editing, documents? Possibly. > Meanwhile, if you want something close to this behaviour in Writer, here's > your workaround: just click the Edit File button in the Standard toolbar to > toggle on this behaviour. > >> > > >> >I trust this helps. > >> > > >> >Brian Barker > >> > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted