yikes  ;-(
           and the proper way for WIN7 would be ???  ;-)
       I was just about to check into finding more then plopping them in;
now I'll wait for further instructions.

       yep ... I think this 'glorified typewriter' is making me 'feel
stupider & stupider' ...



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:25 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P <
[email protected]> wrote:


> For the Windows users, and the Linux users, you really should use the font
> install procedures.
>
> For Windows, there should be a font listing in its Control Panel and a way
> to install fonts there.
>
> For Ubuntu users, all you have to do in click on the font and it should
> open the font installation window with the "install" button.  That way you
> can see the font before you install it.  I like that better than "dumping"
> the font into the hidden ".fonts" folder.  This is mostly the fonts you
> install after the fact and not ones installed by the OS.
>
> If you are never going to use any non-English language, then do this. . .
>
> Open LibreOffice and scroll down the list of fonts in the font drop-box in
> the "formatting" toolbar.
>
> Look at the fonts that have a name on the left and glyphs on the right.
>  This will show for "dinbats" and icon based fonts.  ALSO it will show you
> glyphs for the non-English/non-Latin style of fonts.
>
> Think Arabic or an Asian language.
>
> At that point, write down all of the font names that have these fonts you
> do not want.  Then go to a package that has a font viewer and search for
> the fonts, if the is no file name that matches.  I have a bunch of fonts
> like that.
>
> To be honest, there are other places that hold the fonts for Ubuntu, so
> you will have to search for then.  BE CAREFUL not to remove any folders or
> delete them permanently since you might have removed a needed for for one
> of your packages.  My install of Ubuntu has many Middle Eastern and Asian
> fonts installed by default, even though I use English for my language.  I
> may remove most of them someday, but it will be a slow process so I do not
> make any mistakes.  If you use Ubuntu, use the Software Center and look at
> the font packages installed.  Then remove those that are not part of your
> language, like India or Arabic for English.
>
>
>
>
> On 02/23/2013 08:23 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>
>>         Thanks!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Doug <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>   On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>>
>>>         Thank you for responding;
>>>              but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.
>>>
>>>         the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???
>>>
>>>         I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ...
>>> and
>>> finding then dropping in the good ones;
>>>              but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.
>>>
>>>         ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop them
>>> into whatever folder ...
>>>              but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
>>> stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>   AAMOF=as a matter of fact
>>>
>>> You will find a bunch of directories labelled fonts. You want one that
>>> has
>>> a list of
>>> fonts showing as subdirectories. In my distro (pclos) they're in
>>> /usr/share:
>>>
>>> [doug@linux1 fonts]$ ls -la
>>> total 184
>>> drwxr-xr-x  17 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 ./
>>> drwxr-xr-x 266 root root 12288 Feb 22 12:04 ../
>>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 98304 Jun  8  2011 100dpi/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 75dpi/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 cyrillic/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Sep 22  2011 default/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 encodings/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Feb 22 12:07 java/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 20480 Jun  8  2011 misc/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 OTF/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Speedo/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 truetype/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Aug 20  2012 ttf/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 TTF/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Type1/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun 12  2011 ubuntu/
>>> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Oct 16  2010 webcore/
>>>
>>> Notice the names: three sets of true-types, a type 1, even
>>> cyrillic, if you happen to use Russian! All of the Latin letters
>>> can be modified with accent marks, etc. if you make a
>>> compose key. You'll also have  some signs, like €, ¢, ₤,
>>> ½, ¼, ß (German ess-tset) and whatever.
>>>
>>> I thought I saw, somewhere in this thread, someone who
>>> told where to get the Microsoft fonts--these are True-Tupe,
>>> or ttf, and have the kind of fonts you want so as to look
>>> professional in whatever you write.  BTW, do _not_
>>> remove the old font directory without having one at
>>> hand to replace it with, because if you do, there will be
>>> absolutely _nothing_ readable in any program! As I
>>> have said, all the programs on the system use the
>>> fonts in that font directory. There might be one or two
>>> exceptions, but more likely not.  You don't have to
>>> remove the old font directory--you can just drop the
>>> new fonts in with the old, and you'll just have a bigger
>>> list to choose from. I dumped it, because I thought the
>>> existing ones in Mint were basically useless.
>>> If you have a search routine in your email, search for ms,
>>> I think that's the abbreviation the previous poster used,
>>> when telling how to get Microsoft fonts. They're free, you
>>> don't have to buy them.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.  --doug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Doug <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   On 02/23/2013 06:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>>>
>>>>          Then how does one get these new ones into the programs for use?
>>>>>
>>>>>   As you quoted me before, you weren't reading what I said: put the
>>>>>
>>>> ffonts in the font directory of your distro.  they should then be
>>>> available for any program on the machine, including LO. That's
>>>> just what I did on the Mint installation.  AAMOF, I deleted all
>>>> the crap fonts that were on the machine--Liberation and a
>>>> whole batch of Asian fonts in languages I couldn't even recognize--
>>>> and just dumped in a whole directory of usable fonts--probably
>>>> True-Type, supplied on another distro that wasn't so damned PC.
>>>>
>>>> --doug
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>    On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> operating system, or at least some of the fonts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll explain my problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want
>>>>>>>> (let's
>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>> it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode
>>>>>>>> 00d2, or
>>>>>>>> Ò). See screenshot 1:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>> <http://nabble.**documentfound**ation.org/file/**<http://documentfoundation.org/file/**>
>>>>>>>> n4039236/Character_Map.png<
>>>>>>>> http://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**
>>>>>>>> n4039236/Character_Map.png<http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to
>>>>>>>> Webdings,
>>>>>>>> it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See
>>>>>>>> screenshot 2:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   <http://nabble.**
>>>>>>>> documentfoundation.org/file/****n4039236/Libre_Office_**<http://documentfoundation.org/file/**n4039236/Libre_Office_**>
>>>>>>>> characters.png<
>>>>>>>> http://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**
>>>>>>>> n4039236/Libre_Office_**characters.png<http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52
>>>>>>>> characters
>>>>>>>> (A-Z and a-z) are correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can
>>>>>>>> search
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font
>>>>>>>> Viewer,
>>>>>>>> and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre
>>>>>>>> Office
>>>>>>>> 4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    My 12.04 shows a list of fonts at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   /opt/libreoffice4.0/share/****fonts/truetype/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are mostly "DejaVu" and "Liberation" fonts but there are others
>>>>>>> listed as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I made sure the fonts listed there were also listed in the /.fonts/
>>>>>>> hidden folder.  that way I had the same fonts for all my packages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    I was recently looking at Mint, a derivative of Ubuntu, and I was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    appalled at the paucity of fonts. "Liberation" is ugly! You need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> find a
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> set of True-Type fonts and install them.  Then you can have, for
>>>>>> example,
>>>>>> Times-Roman.  And most of the odd-ball ones that you might use
>>>>>> once in your life-time. I copied the entire fonts directory from PCLOS
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> replaced the one in Mint. But I think you can get True-Type from
>>>>>> Microsoft, free. Not sure how you do that--Google's your friend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --doug
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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