Thanks.
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Girvin R. Herr <[email protected]>wrote: I disabled Java (not Javascript) in my Firefox with no apparent > consequences. > I may also note that Slackware Linux no longer packages Java with their > latest release (14.0), as they have done in the past. I read from the > S14.0 "Changes and Hints.txt" file: "jre - removed due to licensing > issues". ("jre" is Java Runtime Environment.) Not supplying Java is a > sign to me that it is not needed. Slackware has always been strict about > bundling Open Source GPL software with their Linux distributions. > Girvin Herr > > > Tom Davies wrote: > >> Hi :) >> I think Dan's point is key. >> If you don't seem to need it then don't use it. I thik that's a good >> general rule. A bit like if no-one is in the kitchen then why have the >> lights on in there? >> Micheal Meeks was saying that it's still ok to write Extensions in Java >> but you are not writing Extensions. You are like me, just a normal user. >> His advice does seem to contradict everything i am hearing about Java at >> the moment. The devs seem to have put a lot of effort into reducing the >> amount of Java to the point where most users are unlikely to ever need it. >> However, Micheal is one of the lead devs and well respected so he is much >> more likely to really know what is really going on whereas my information >> is 2nd or 3rd hand and i'm not a dev so i could easily be missing some >> crucial points. I think maybe i was a bit too harsh about blaming Oracle >> for all of Java's problems. Maybe it was horribly broken before or that >> currrent problems were inevitable or maybe reported problems are >> over-stated. >> I switched Java off months ago and had no problems so i finally >> uninstalled it around December and still had no problems. I think that is >> the best route. Removing Java completely could be troublesome so it's best >> to have a trial-period of seeing if you can do without it before >> uninstalling it. You probably wouldn't take the bulb out of the kitchen >> light just because you didn't think you would go into the kitchen at night. >> It appears that Homeland Security in the US are recommending people >> uninstall it but that could be a bogus report and even if not then it seems >> they may not have considered the implications for normal or corporate >> users. >> A couple of machines at my place where Java is still installed grumble >> when i open Firefox now, roughly since the Homeland Security report >> apparently. Firefox now offers to update various plugins and things such >> as Adobe Flash-Player, Adobe Reader(?!) and Java but then tells me it's >> automatically blocked Java for me anyway. >> Regards from Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: anne-ology <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Java >>> To: "Dan" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: [email protected] >>> Date: Friday, 22 March, 2013, 17:56 >>> Well, >>> I guess I don't need it/them since any program I open seems >>> to >>> work fine - >>> except the A-V >>> program every so often pops up stating my system >>> is in-secure due to some items not being up-dated ;-) >>> [I >>> click to see to what they're referring - it's the >>> disabled java - maybe its not completely disabled, huh ;-) ] >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Dan Lewis <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> What are you using in LibreOffice that >>> requires Java? Is there >>> >>> >>>> something that you would like to use that requires >>>> >>>> >>> Java? If so, by all >>> >>> >>>> means update and enable it. Otherwise don't do anything >>>> >>>> >>> about it. >>> >>> >>>> I have Java enabled because I work >>>> >>>> >>> with Base much of the time. (It >>> >>> >>>> requires Java.) Otherwise, I probably would not need it >>>> >>>> >>> myself. >>> >>> >>>> --Dan >>>> >>>> >>>> On 03/22/2013 11:06 AM, anne-ology wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yikes, now >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I'm confused; yes, again ;-) >>> >>> >>>> I've had java >>>>> >>>>> >>>> disabled on this machine; but maybe its time to >>> >>> >>>> re-enable it - updating it ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Tom, do you >>>>> >>>>> >>>> know more re. java ... >>> >>> >>>> or >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Michael, do you know something more re. this. >>> >>> >>>> Eagerly >>>>> >>>>> >>>> awaiting to hear what to do re. this java; >>> >>> >>>> and >>>>> >>>>> >>>> please remember I don't comprehend computerese ;-) >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Michael Meeks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> <[email protected] >>> >>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Hi Tom, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 11:27 +0000, Tom Davies >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Now that Oracle are in charge of developing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> it Java seems to be >>> >>> >>>> increasing as a security risk. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> You're >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> smoking some good stuff here Tom ;-> Oracle are no doubt >>> >>> >>>> improving the situation they inherited in Java >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> just fine. Last I heard >>> >>> >>>> rumour that RedHat were stepping up to support >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> older versions too. >>> >>> >>>> It's a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> sensible thing to use Java for writing cross-platform >>> >>> >>>> LibreOffice extensions. The only problem we >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> have is with writing core >>> >>> >>>> functionality in Java - since we can't be sure >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> of the presence of a >>> >>> >>>> suitable JVM on Windows machines. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Michael. >>> >>> >>>> -- >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot >>> >>> >> -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
