Hi Everyone,

It is with a rather red face that I report that my problem with linking the
Main Form with the Sub Form has gone away!!

I imported the data for my new database from an old Paradox application and
as part of the process I used Basic Macros to manipulate the various
tables.  I added surrogate keys as primary keys and needed to get those
into various other tables as foreign keys for linking purposes.

The Macros I used were copied from another application I have written, and
modified as needed.  I think that I must have been sloppy with my database
initialization coding and possibly ended up with conflicting variables with
the same names.  Anyway, when I tidied up my code the problem disappeared!

I tried retracing my steps, but so far I have not been able to reproduce
the problem I was having.  I would much rather have 'nailed' exactly where
I went wrong, but I have run out of time and will have to let it be for now.

So, my apologies for wasting your time.  I appreciated all the help I
received, and I have picked up some new resources and ideas from your
replies.

Thanks again,

Noel
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Noel Lodge
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On 7 June 2013 16:55, Marion & Noel Lodge <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for all the replies.
>
> Jay
> Yes, I have a similar structure to the id/idfam you suggested.  If for
> example, I am displaying family 2 (Smith) I need a way of getting the 2 in
> place of f.id in your query, to display only Art, Sue and Ann in the Roll
> data sheet. (e.g. WHERE idFam = 2)
>
> Hank
> Thanks for your reply.  Are you using the HSQL database.  The linking
> works fine there, but not if you are using the H2 database as I am.
>
> Dan
> Thanks for pointing me to the examples using a FilterExample table.
> Populating that table could perhaps be triggered by the Text modified Event
> of the Form's FamilyID field.
> I have previously written some Basic Macros that can read a value, (in
> this case it could be theFamilyID) from a Form.  I've also got a Macro
> that can apply a filter, say to the Roll data sheet.
>
> I'll experiment with these two possibilities and report back on what I
> come up with.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> N
> oel
>
> --
> Noel Lodge
> [email protected]
>
>
> On 7 June 2013 09:38, Hank Alper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Noel
>> I'm building a database for a fishing club. I have Member and Boat as two
>> of the many tables in the DB.
>> I have a form which shows my Member data and a sub form with the Boat
>> data of all the boats the member owns.
>> I used the wizard to produce this form. How did you establish the
>> relationship between your
>> two tables?
>> I linked the primary key in the Member table (equivalent to your Family
>> table) and a foreign key in the Boats table (equivalent to your Rolls
>> table).
>> I did this by building the tables using SQL coding, including  expressing
>> the Constraints in SQL.showing the link between the foreign key in Boats
>> and the Member primary key.
>> My form shows the Member data in columnar form and the Boat data for the
>> member as a data sheet which includes all the boats owned by the member
>> which is what I think you want for your project.
>> Hank
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Marion & Noel Lodge <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>> My form displays a Church Membership Roll -
>>>
>>> - The Families Table contains the family's Surname, Address, Street Map
>>> Reference, Date Loaded, Date Last Updated etc.
>>> - The Roll Table has a separate line for each family member.  It includes
>>> First Name, Title, Date of Birth, Membership Status, Occupation etc.
>>>
>>> On the form the family fields are displayed in Columnar format with
>>> labels
>>> left.  The Roll fields are in a Data sheet.
>>>
>>> When I call up a family I want all the family members to automatically
>>> appear, and I was hoping to do that using Main form / Sub Form linking.
>>>
>>> At the moment, by removing the linking, I can get all of the Roll table
>>> rows appearing in the Data sheet, so I think I'll write a macro to filter
>>> the rows to include only those associated with the currently displayed
>>> family.  I think this would work just as well as the linking mechanism,
>>> but
>>> can you think of a better solution?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Noel
>>> --
>>> Noel Lodge
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 June 2013 20:57, Dan Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >      It seems that this has been a problem since 2010 with
>>> OpenOffice.org
>>> > Base, so it is likely a problem with LibreOffice Base as well.
>>> >      This link describes how one person solved it.
>>> >
>>> > http://h2-database.66688.n3.**nabble.com/Parameterized-**
>>> > Queries-with-OpenOffice-Base-**td845715.html<
>>> http://h2-database.66688.n3.nabble.com/Parameterized-Queries-with-OpenOffice-Base-td845715.html
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >      There is something more that I would like to know:
>>> >  1) What purposes do this form and subform serve? (Specifically, why
>>> use
>>> > the parameter?)
>>> > 2) How does the design of the form accomplish these purposes?
>>> >
>>> > --Dan
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 06/05/2013 09:40 PM, Marion & Noel Lodge wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Dan,
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you for your prompt and detailed reply.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm using the H2 database and I suspect that was the vital piece of
>>> >> information that I failed to mention in my first post.  Sorry about
>>> that.
>>> >>
>>> >> I originally linked the two tables using the Wizard. Then later I
>>> used the
>>> >> Form properties dialog to un-link and then relink them, but to no
>>> avail.
>>> >>
>>> >> When I got your reply, I created a new test Form going through all the
>>> >> steps you laid out, but I got the same error message as before.
>>> >>
>>> >> I then went to Queries | 'Create Query in SQL view' and ran this
>>> query -
>>> >>
>>> >> SELECT * FROM "LUCROLLS"."PUBLIC"."Roll"
>>> >> WHERE ("FamilyKey" = :link_from_FamilyID)
>>> >>
>>> >> With the SQL button on, (Run SQL command directly), I got the same
>>> error.
>>> >> With the button off I got a prompt to manually enter the value of
>>> >> ':link_from_FamilyID'.  Entering a 1 produced the same error as
>>> before.
>>> >>
>>> >> I finally tried the query in a native, (HSQL not H2) database, (I
>>> changed
>>> >> the table name to suit the other database), and when I manually
>>> entered a
>>> >> suitable integer it worked!
>>> >>
>>> >> So my conclusion is that setting Table links in a Base Form doesn't
>>> work
>>> >> when using H2 as the database.  Is that right?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks again for all your help - much appreciated.
>>> >>
>>> >> Noel
>>> >> --
>>> >> Noel Lodge
>>> >> [email protected]
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 5 June 2013 21:51, Dan Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>  Onn 06/05/2013 02:29 AM, Marion & Noel Lodge wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  Hi,
>>> >>>> I have a Form with families info in the Main Form and family members
>>> >>>> info
>>> >>>> in a Sub Form. The Tables and relevant fields are -
>>> >>>> Main Form (Families)
>>> >>>> FamilyID     BIGINT     IDENTITY
>>> >>>> <Info fields follow>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Sub Form (Roll)
>>> >>>> RollID         BIGINT     IDENTITY
>>> >>>> FamilyKey  BIGINT
>>> >>>> <Info fields follow>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I have linked the forms using fields FamilyID and FamilyKey - a one
>>> to
>>> >>>> many
>>> >>>> link.  However I get the error -
>>> >>>> The data content could not be loaded.
>>> >>>> SQL Statement:
>>> >>>> SELECT * FROM "LUCROLLS"."PUBLIC"."Roll"
>>> >>>> WHERE ("FamilyKey" = :[*]link_from_FamilyID) [42001-139]
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The problem seems to be the 'link_from_FamilyID' phrase.  I Googled
>>> >>>> 42001,
>>> >>>> and all it says is that it is an invalid SQL Statement, but I don't
>>> know
>>> >>>> what is wrong.  Even if I did, the SQL statement is generated by the
>>> >>>> Wizard!  Is there a way of manually over riding the Wizard?  Failing
>>> >>>> that
>>> >>>> I'll need to write a macro to filter the Roll records to achieve
>>> what I
>>> >>>> want to happen.  But I shouldn't need to do this.  In another
>>> >>>> application
>>> >>>> I
>>> >>>> have previously got this sort of linking to work.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Can anybody see what I am doing wrong here?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I'm running LO version 3.5.6.2 and Windows 7.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Noel
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> Noel Lodge
>>> >>>> [email protected]
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>        Needed information: How did you link these two tables?
>>> (Specific
>>> >>> steps please.) Are you using Base as the front end to another
>>> database?
>>> >>> Where did Base get the name "LUCROLLS"? (I know that "PUBLIC" is the
>>> >>> schema
>>> >>> and 'Roll" is the table name.) Is "LUCROLLS" the name of the database
>>> >>> perhaps?
>>> >>>       I created a database with two tables: Families and Roll.
>>> Families
>>> >>> was
>>> >>> given the primary key, FamilyID (BIGINT). Roll was given two fields:
>>> >>> RollID
>>> >>> (primary key, BIGINT), and FamilyKey (BIGINT). Using the Form
>>> Wizard, I
>>> >>> created a form with Families as the main form and Roll as the
>>> subform.
>>> >>> Step
>>> >>> 2: (Setup sub form) Clicked "Add subform" box. Clicked Next. Step 3:
>>> (Add
>>> >>> subform fields) Selected "Table:Roll" from the Tables or queries
>>> >>> drop-down
>>> >>> list. Clicked the double right arrow to move all the fields from the
>>> >>> table,
>>> >>> Roll, to the "Fields in form" list. Clicked Next. Step 4: (Get joined
>>> >>> fields) Select FamilyKey from the "First joined subform field"
>>> drop-down
>>> >>> list. Select FamilyID from the "First joined main form field"
>>> drop-down
>>> >>> list. Click Next. I then went through the rest of the steps of the
>>> Form
>>> >>> Wizard.
>>> >>>       Possible way to correct the situation: Edit the form.
>>> >>> Add the Form Controls toolbar. (View > Toolbars > Form Controls) The
>>> >>> fourth icon from the left is the Form tool (icon). But first control
>>> >>> click
>>> >>> the FamilyKey field. Then click the Form tool. (The Form properties
>>> >>> dialog
>>> >>> opens.) Click the Data tab. Click the ellipse (...) for "Link master
>>> >>> fields". (The "Linked fields" dialog opens.) Select FamilyKey from
>>> the
>>> >>> top
>>> >>> Roll drop-down list. Select FamilyID from the Families drop-down
>>> list.
>>> >>> Click OK. Close the Form Properties dialog. Save the Form. Save the
>>> >>> database.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --Dan
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