Hi Tom

Many thanks indeed for your comprehensive, speedy reply to my “m’aidez” (and my 
thanks too to Oscar for his ‘auto-reply’).

I use IE and – more recently – Firefox: in light of your advice, I’ll make much 
more use of the latter in the future.  In addition, I’ll follow your advice to 
download and install the 2nd package from the LO downloads page. 

Many thanks too for sending me details of the extensive help that is available 
through the full guides that you list: I’ll look at them for sure.

Again my thanks

Regards

Peter



From: Tom Davies 
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:40 AM
To: Peter Hunt ; [email protected] ; [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 4.1 - Help with "Help" please

Hi :)  

Please just click on accept and install the certificate even those MS claim it 
is dodgy.  It's annoying that MS still haven't accepted our certificate into 
their store.  



I take it that you use Internet Explorer as your default web-browser?  Have you 
ever tried Firefox or any of the other choices out there?  FIrefox, Opera, 
Safari, Chrome and pretty much any other web-browsers are far safer and faster 
than IE.  Although we sometimes argue amongst ourselves about which is better 
than the others they are all FAR better than IE in my experience.  


Internet Explorer is made by Microsoft and they are quite keen to get people to 
buy their newest versions of their own Office Suite and dissuade people from 
using anything else.  Also IE appears to have considerable trouble with all 
sorts of issues that most others would consider security risk and it (IE) 
doesn't get updates out to people quickly enough to deal with problems.  Just 
as the Eskimos have many words for snow and ice, so MS has many words for 
different sorts of security issues.  MS keep their own store of certificate and 
use their own way of authenticating certificates but that doesn't seem to help 
them become secure.  They block ones that are safe (such as their rivals) and 
allegedly let through ones that aren't.  

However, you can keep using IE if you want to.  It's also quite normal for 
people to have at least 2 web-browsers installed and maybe use each for 
different things or at different times.  


Also you might find it better to install the 2nd package from the downloads 
page, the in-built help.  Once downloaded you install it.  It 'needs' to be 
installed sometime after the initial install of the main program but that could 
be a year or 2 later and after extensive use of LO.  There is no need to do it 
straight-away although most of us do them both at around the same time to avoid 
forgetting to do so.  


Since you are just starting out with LO you might find the full proper guides 
quite useful
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
They do have an entire team working on those so they are sometimes a bit more 
up-to-date than the in-built help.  It's good to have both but if they conflict 
then it's the Publications that are more accurate.  There is also an Faq
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq
but you might find the courses at "Spoken Tutorials" are the best way to learn 
quickly and thoroughly

http://www.spoken-tutorial.org/list_videos?view=1&foss=LibreOffice-Suite-Writer&language=English

Note they have a lot of different non-European languages but their English is 
surprisingly impeccable and friendly.  



So, my suggestions are; 

1.  install and accept the certificate or else just install the in-built help 
that was also on the downloads page but just accepting the certificate is the 
faster answer

2.  Quit using IE and use something safer, faster and more reliable.  Firefox, 
Opera, Safari, Chrome seem to be the most popular (not necessarily in that 
order)
3.  install the Help package that was also on the downloads page.  This way you 
don't need to connect to the internet to reach the help package each time you 
click F1
4.  Download the guides you need or want from the wiki.  I bought the "Getting 
Started Guide" and will probably buy the "Base Handbook" too.  

5.  Use http://www.spoken-tutorial.org to learn about how to use all sorts of 
OpenSource tools (such as Firefox or Chrome as well as LibreOffice)

Regards from 

Tom :)  








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  From: Peter Hunt <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2013, 9:18
  Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 4.1 - Help with "Help" please


  Hello

  I have just downloaded and installed – with great ease, thank you – the 
latest version of LibreOffice.  Being new to the suite of programs, I needed 
help early on so I pressed F1. My browser opened and I was given the text 
below.  I tried other methods of accessing the online help but always found the 
same result.

  Help please!

  Thank you

  peter hunt



        There is a problem with this website's security certificate. 
      
          
      The security certificate presented by this website was issued for a 
different website's address.

        Security certificate problems may indicate an attempt to fool you or 
intercept any data you send to the server.  
          We recommend that you close this webpage and do not continue to this 
website.  
          Click here to close this webpage.  
          Continue to this website (not recommended).  
            More information  

      

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