Hi :) That helped me find it on Ubuntu 12.04 and gave the package name ttf-mscorefonts-installer so it'd be
sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer on a debian (and probably quite a few others) command-line. For Redhat just swap out apt-get with yum? Regards from Tom :) ________________________________ From: Don C. Myers <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013, 1:14 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats? In Ubuntu 13.04, the package in the software center is called: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts Don On 08/26/2013 08:00 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > There used to be a package called something like "ms core fonts" which had > arial, times new roman, trebuchet, verdana and maybe a couple other things. > I must have got the name a bit wrong because i cna't find it in my package > manager now. > > > I've copied across a few fonts from Ubuntu to Windows but i should really > find a way of being more consistent one day to get all machines on both > networks the same as each other. Possibly 1 folder on the file-share and > then just drag&drop > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Virgil Arrington <[email protected]> > To: Info/UX <[email protected]> > Cc: Tom Davies <[email protected]>; [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013, 0:33 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to > other software/formats? > > > I think you've got a good process there. > > Fonts! It's one problem I see with interaction between Linux and Windows. I > have a dual boot Windows/Linux laptop, and the font issue is a constant > problem. I've found that many Windows fonts install quite nicely into Linux, > but I do want to respect copyrights and licenses, so I tend to use free > fonts as much as possible. The URW collection of free fonts is quite nice, > as is Linux Libertine, which has some really nice expert effects (old style > numbering, true small caps, etc.). Another great free font for book-style > work is OFL Sorts Mill Goudy. > > Virgil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Info/UX > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:20 PM > To: Virgil Arrington > Cc: Tom Davies ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to > other software/formats? > > Thanks a lot for that, Virgil. > > Based on the information you and Tom have provided, my workflow will go: > .ott (with paragraph and page styles) --> .odt (copy and paste .doc > content, load style from template, format, save) --> export to PDF --> > save as .doc --> send to MS computer --> Manually clean up any problems. > > I think this should be fine, if a little involved. All the fonts I need > are standard MS stuff, which I have installed. I'll spare you the horror > stories about preparing a nice document in LO using DejaVU fonts and > then later opening in a new*ish* version of MS Word. ;-) > > Thanks again for the time you took. Think I can get to work now. > > Regards, > Ryan > > On 26/08/13 23:59, Virgil Arrington wrote: >> Before answering your question, I did a little test. I loaded a simple >> .odt two page document in LO. It has some basic paragraph styles, and a >> few outline styles with automatic numbering, along with a footer with a >> page number. Basic stuff. >> >> I then saved the document as a .doc (Word 2003). I loaded it into the Word >> Starter Version that came with my Sony Laptop, and it converted *almost* >> perfectly. There was only a slight deviation in my outline numbering. LO >> adds more horizontal space after an automatic number, whereas Word adds a >> <tab> character. When converting the document, LO added a <tab> and >> adjusted the extra horizontal space, but there was still an ever so slight >> difference in the lining up of the text. It would only bother an obsessive >> person like me. >> >> The page formatting and footer with page number translated perfectly. >> >> I'm using LO 3.6.7 and I must say that it's .doc translation is extremely >> good, much better than I remember from previous versions. >> >> Virgil >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Info/UX >> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:40 PM >> To: Virgil Arrington >> Cc: Tom Davies ; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to >> other software/formats? >> >> Thanks, Virgil. >> >> My documents are similar to yours. One last question then I'll give you >> guys some peace. :-) Would making a page style with page size "letter" >> and with a footer be considered LO specific? I don't need anything more >> intricate than that. >> >> Thanks for the tip regarding Atlantis. I only have Linux at home so will >> probably stick with LO. >> >> Thanks again. Your replies have helped a lot. >> >> Regards, >> Ryan >> >> On 26/08/13 23:29, Virgil Arrington wrote: >>> My documents tend to be *really* basic in terms of formatting. Typically, >>> they are either legal or academic style papers. I'm a heavy user of >>> paragraph styles and won't work without them. >>> >>> I tend to do my entire document as an .odt and then at the end convert to >>> .doc as necessary. I'd use the paragraph styles, but I would avoid LO >>> specific methods. >>> >>> Another option is a shareware word processor called Atlantis. It's a >>> lightweight clone of pre 2007 Word (e.g., no ribbon) with a $35.00 >>> registration. I often use it when Word compatibility is paramount. It >>> does nearly everything *exactly* like Word. I honestly don't know why MS >>> hasn't sued them, it's that close. It doesn't support tables, but other >>> than that, it will handle simple formats very well and will produce a >>> result that Word should read fairly well. >>> >>> Virgil >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Info/UX >>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:38 PM >>> To: Tom Davies >>> Cc: Virgil Arrington ; [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to >>> other software/formats? >>> >>> Thanks, Tom, Virgil. >>> >>> If I wanted to use different text body styles throughout I would >>> probably have made new styles and called them text body 1, 2, etc. >>> Luckily nothing like that is needed in this case. But I have created my >>> simple template with basic paragraph and page styles. >>> >>> So, in trying to process the information in both of your replies, I feel >>> I now have two options: (1) Keep with the MS formats (.docx, but .doc if >>> possible) and format with minimal use of LO's special features (even so, >>> I'd rather use styles than format everything manually), (2) Start a >>> blank .odt and copy and paste my article content and load the styles >>> from my template and save to doc later (and maybe then to docx on a >>> windows machine). >>> >>> Which method do you think would give the best results? The priority is >>> for the finished pieces to look consistent in MS Word... and also allow >>> other people to edit the .docs in Word with minimal quirky things going >>> on. >>> >>> Thanks for all this advice. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ryan >>> >>> On 26/08/13 21:18, Tom Davies wrote: >>>> Hi :) >>>> If you can use MS Office to do some final proof-reading then you are >>>> unlikely to have any problems. >>>> >>>> We have been assuming that is not possible and that would make the final >>>> outcome uncertain. Being able to quickly scroll through before sending >>>> it out into the world kinda eliminates that uncertainty. >>>> >>>> If you can keep all your 'originals' in Odt format and then at the end >>>> convert to Doc format then you should find that there are no surprises. >>>> >>>> >>>> Virgil seems to be talking about a very specific set of styles or method >>>> of using styles. He is talking about changing styles (such as changing >>>> the font of "text body") on different pages within the same document. >>>> If you need to do that it might be worth creating duplicates of the >>>> styles and then modifying the duplicates? I'm not sure how to deal with >>>> that but Virgil has probably found a work-around if needed. >>>> >>>> >>>> I would keep copies of photos/images/art/logos near the original Odts >>>> just in case you do run into problems. LO does have an extremely rare >>>> intermittent bug that is difficult to pin down but seems to be getting >>>> rarer and rarer as code clean-up goes on. You know that you can rename >>>> files from .Odt or .DocX to .Zip and then double-click to see the Xml >>>> coding inside along with folders for various things such as images. >>>> Sometimes it can be a neat way to fix problems but it's a bit risky. >>>> The Xml tags and such are very different in the 2 formats so just >>>> renaming .Odt to .DocX might create fairly serious problems. Stick with >>>> the "Save As ...". the Doc format doesn't open in that way and doesn't >>>> hold images in an image format which is another reason i suggest keeping >>>> a copy of images nearby. >>>> >>>> Also i have sometimes found that mysterious things happen during the >>>> course of a Word document. So to save myself a lot of time i tend to >>>> start with a fresh new Odt and then use >>>> Ctrl Shift v >>>> to paste in "unformatted text" and then apply styles (and maybe modfied >>>> the styles after to watch the mod ripple through the document). >>>> Occasionally i have wanted to "just do something quickly" and then been >>>> frustrated by some weird bit of insane MS formatting that just keeps >>>> throwing up problems until i relent and do the "start again from >>>> scratch" approach which has then typically taken just a few minutes even >>>> if the problem seemed intractable. >>>> >>>> Regards from >>>> Tom :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* Info/UX <[email protected]> >>>> *To:* Virgil Arrington <[email protected]> >>>> *Cc:* [email protected] >>>> *Sent:* Monday, 26 August 2013, 19:23 >>>> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported >>>> to other software/formats? >>>> >>>> Thanks, Virgil. >>>> >>>> I can probably alter any lists when I work in an MS environment at the >>>> final stage of formatting. >>>> >>>> Regarding page formatting — I'm wondering if I use slightly more >>>> advanced features of LibreOffice to get my results whether it would >>>> cause more problems when working in Word. I am trying to keep the >>>> process relatively simple. The articles only need to have consistent >>>> fonts and spacing and perhaps one page break for the bibliographies. I >>>> have starting created a LibreOffice template with customised paragraph >>>> styles and some changes to the page style. I was planning to apply this >>>> to the .docs. As long as 90% or so of my formatting would transfer to >>>> Word, I don't mind making some manual adjustments at that stage. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ryan >>>> >>>> On 26/08/13 13:00, Virgil Arrington wrote: >>>>> In my experience, most paragraph styles tend to translate well to >>>>> MS-Word formats. However, I've had problems with the alignment of >>>>> automatic numbering and/or bullets. LO and MSW seem to align them >>>>> differently. >>>>> >>>>> One bigger difference, however, is the way the two formats handle >>>> page >>>>> formatting. LO uses page styles to change formatting from one page to >>>>> another, whereas Word does not. It uses section breaks to make such >>>>> page formatting changes, and I've found discrepancies in translating >>>>> page formatting between the two. >>>>> >>>>> Virgil >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Info/UX >>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:38 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to >>>>> other software/formats? >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Apologies if this is a basic question. I've been given some >>>> documents to >>>>> format according to certain style guidelines. The files are mostly >>>> .docx >>>>> and .doc and must be sent off in this format. I work only with >>>>> LibreOffice. My questions is, if I format the articles using >>>> paragraph >>>>> and page styles rather than just directly changing the format in the >>>>> body of the document, will the formatting be maintained when the >>>>> documents are opened in MS Office? I am not concerned with small >>>>> discrepancies that can be tweaked later on, rather whether this >>>> method >>>>> of formatting generally transfers well. Again, sorry if it's a silly >>>>> question. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks. >>>>> Ryan >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Problems? >>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>>> deleted >>>> >>>> >>> > -- ** -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
