> Oh yes and that hits the nail on the head. Now that the problem has > been defined, the solution becomes easy. Provide a way to SEE exactly > how the formatting has been applied - and a quick link shortcut to > removing it! Formatting/styles are - in my mind - similar to field > codes. They're hidden formulas and such that could be turned on and off > for viewing at will. >
That would be very useful. Peter West ...he saw a poor widow put in two copper coins. On 29 Nov 2013, at 7:00 am, A [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] <ml-node+s969070n4085467...@n3.nabble.com> wrote: > > On 11/28/2013 10:44 AM, Brian Barker wrote: > > > > > As far as I can see: > > > > o Format | Default Formatting removes both direct formatting (to > > characters or paragraphs) and formatting by character styles. > > o The Apply Style drop-down applies paragraph styles, so you'd expect > > "Clear formatting" there to reset the paragraph style to Default - and > > it does. But it also does the same as Format | Default Formatting as > > well. > > > For me at least, there's just too much to remember. (You're in a maze > of twisty little passages. You're in a twisty maze of little passages. > Now you're in a twisty little passage with a maze.) It's enough to make > me lose my mind. I can't keep track of all these various intracacies. > It sure would be nice to have some tool tips. > > Also, if "Apply Style" applies paragraph styles and only paragraph > styles, why not have it say "Apply Paragraph Style" so as to make it > obvious and avoid the obscurity. > > "Default Formatting" could either have a tool tip, or perhaps broken up > into separate functions that do one thing each. > i.e. 1) Remove formatting to characters. > 2) Remove formatting to paragraphs. > 3) Remove formatting by character styles. > > That would provide more control. I don't know if there's an advantage > to it - other than knowing precisely what function is being performed. > > In addition, I do NOT expect "Clear formatting" to reset the paragraph > style to default. I expect it to do 1,2,3 above. i.e. Clear the > formatting just as it implies. I would expect "Reset Paragraph Style to > Default" to reset the paragraph style to default. There's far too much > guesswork and intimate knowledge required here. It's all quite > NON-obvious. Sure, if one works with it all the time one can learn > these things - but I shouldn't have to be an expert - it should be > intuitive and if it's not intuitive it should be spelled out in a tool tip. > > > I suspect that at least part of the problem here is that it is > > sometimes difficult to see - especially with an inherited document - > > exactly how formatting has been applied and consequently how it might > > be removed. > > > Oh yes and that hits the nail on the head. Now that the problem has > been defined, the solution becomes easy. Provide a way to SEE exactly > how the formatting has been applied - and a quick link shortcut to > removing it! Formatting/styles are - in my mind - similar to field > codes. They're hidden formulas and such that could be turned on and off > for viewing at will. > > Just my opinions of course. > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden email] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/A-feature-or-tp4064910p4085467.html > To unsubscribe from A feature, or ...?, click here. > NAML -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted