Hi :) MS Access does it that way and therefore everyone else 'must' too. We can't sell Base by pointing out that it has huge advantages over Access. (One of those being that it's so much easier to connect it to an external back-end and is really kinda the default way of using Base). So we can only 'sell' it by saying that it's not quite as good as Access = but only at the stupidly dangerous things that are probably best to avoid. Base is more solid and flexible but we can't say that because people wont understand it.
Errr, Jim is right except that it's extremely rare to find anyone who is able to install programs let alone an entire OS. His bar for the average computer user's skill level is far higher than my experience. HooRay for "apps" so that people have learned a bit about installing programs. Actually even using Calc puts people quite a lot higher up the skill scale than "the average user" as spreadsheets baffle most people. I disagree about using databases though. Often it would hugely simplify things that are horribly clunky and heavy at the moment. The problem is that Access puts normal users waaay outside their comfort-zone, gives them a very unfamiliar and somewhat scary interface and put them dangerously close to tools that make huge changes (such as being able to delete the tables). It's even 'difficult' to hide the design-tools so users can easily accidentally change the layout of a Form in a really bad way. Sadly they seem unable to figure out how to move things back again! Anyone actually using a database can put themselves in the top 20% of computer users imo, probably a lot higher but that depends on whether they designed it or maintain it or how simple it is (simplifying it takes it a step further). Regards from Tom :) On 1 August 2014 12:15, Jim Seymour <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 12:55:48 +0200 > Wolfgang Keller <[email protected]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > > I never understood why anyone halfway sane in their minds would use an > > "embedded" database anyway or why the developers of StarOffice/LO/OO > > even considered it. > > Convenience, with a dash of necessity. > > Average end-user is challenged enough just installing an O/S and > productivity suite, and learning how to use them, much less a real > RDBMS. Plus: MS Office (Pro) has one, so LibréOffice and relatives > have to have one. > > Yes: Such tools should never, ever be used for anything very > important. People will, anyway. Then complain when their db gets > corrupted. Best thing people can do is regularly back up known good > versions of their db. That's what I tell users of MS Access to do. > > (I am curious why anybody'd design a database "tool" like that to run > entirely out of memory. Seems like asking for trouble.) > > Regards, > Jim > -- > Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam > filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is > rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my > web form at <http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php>. > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
