Hi Tom, Interesting. Given similar, huge challenges, would you see areas of cooperation with Kexi?
On 3 March 2015 at 14:33, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi :) > +1 > > One advantage of Base is that it can connect to such a wide range of other > database programs. It is kinda the default way of using Base. MS Access > can be twisted into using an external database but it's not as easy to > set-up that way as Base. > > Kexi and other front-ends can be used either alongside Base or on other > systems by other users to use the same external back-end as the Base users > connect to. Again this "playing well with others" is a huge advantage that > Access doesn't have by default. > > > Sadly the marketing team, if and when they ever mention Base, focus on > using the internal back-end and never even mention the advantages that Base > has. This could be one reason why we see so many people using the internal > back-end and comparing it negatively against Access. > > Unfortunately the marketing team took such strong offence to my objections > to their attempts to market Base on it's weakest points instead of it's > strength that they banned me from posting to their mailing list at all. > Sometimes i am really not a "people person"! > > > I think if we do mention specific back-ends, especially if they are owned > by Oracle, then it is well worth pointing out other names. It's not about > fanboyism, just about showing there are a wide range of choices - and that > people might well already have a database (or even spreadsheet) that can be > used without any export-import conversions. It is VERY good to know that > use of internal back-end can be externalised fairly easily without having > to go through all the troubles Ian Whitfield went through. On the other > hand his move away from Java-based back-ends probably gave additional > benefits! > > > I definitely appreciate Andreas' posts in this thread! He has cleared-up > several mysteries by explaining the problems "under the bonnet". It has > also been good to see experienced and knowledgeable people giving anecdotal > confirmation of Andreas' points. > > In answer to Jay's question there was some attempt to move to using > "Firebird" rather than "HSqlDb" but i think that is still an "experimental > feature" and that we now effectively have a choice of 2 internal back-ends > neither of which work entirely as hoped for yet. With Firebird it feels > like it is "on the way" though. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 21:09, Andreas Säger <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Am 02.03.2015 um 21:23 schrieb Tom Davies: >> > Hi :) >> > Apparently another great database program to use as a back-end is >> > Postgresql. Some of the Postgresql people worked with the LibreOffice >> > people to make a really good connector and then got that connector into >> > LibreOffice main trunk. >> > >> >> This is not a matter of partisanship, fanboyism nor objective evidence >> of the better product. The important thing is that you are able to >> connect to whatever you already have. The database of your online shop, >> your business software, your accounting software, some dBase directory, >> spreadsheets or csv files. The connectivity feature lets you use tabular >> data without troublesome export/import. >> >> If all you have is an embedded HSQLDB, you can convert this to HSQL 2 >> within minutes. Conversion into Postrgre/MySQL/whatever would require >> careful editing of SQL scripts, testing and possibly adjustment of >> queries, forms, reports. >> >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted >> > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- regards, Jaroslaw Staniek KDE: : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org Calligra Suite: : A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org Kexi: : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi Qt Certified Specialist: : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
