(obviously we are off-topic)

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 8:46 PM, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Tom Williams wrote:
>
>> On 09/15/2015 01:43 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Ady Ady wrote:
>>>
>>>>    Hello Users of LibreOffice,
>>>>
>>>> Once in a while I visit the Release Plan wiki page,
>>>>    https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
>>>>
>>>>   From that wiki page, I recently tried to visit the "5.0.2" -> "RC1"
>>>> page (more than once), but my OS hangs when I click on the relevant
>>>> link.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, it could be just a coincidence. I am reluctant to try to
>>>> reach these pages again, especially considering that every new wiki
>>>> page in the series is based on the prior one.
>>>>
>>>> I am using Windows Vista Home Basic 32-bit, with Internet Explorer 9
>>>> and Mozilla Firefox 40.0.3, all updated.
>>>>
>>>> The strange behavior happened with both web browsers.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know whether some security tool being in use (e.g. Avast)
>>>> might be relevant.
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to share this unusual experience, in case someone else
>>>> happens to see it too (or something similar, or at least uncommon),
>>>> and/or maybe it might be worth someone checking the source of these
>>>> wiki pages (and their related nested templates).
>>>>
>>>> I am aware that this behavior (hanging OS) would be considered
>>>> "unlikely to be triggered by some wiki page". The fact that it
>>>> happened to me more than once while following the same links (but
>>>> nowhere else) pushed me to at least comment on it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting... I don't see a problem with that page at the moment.
>>> However, since mid July I have been experiencing occasional OS hangs
>>> which seem to be triggered by visiting certain web pages or sometimes
>>> scrolling down the page slightly even after it's been loaded for a
>>> while. Revisiting the same page doesn't necessarily trigger another
>>> hang, but some pages seem to be more prone to it than others.
>>>
>>> I use Windows Vista Business 32-bit, Mozilla SeaMonkey 2.33.1 (based
>>> on Firefox 36), Avast antivirus.
>>>
>>> One site (www.discount-electrical.co.uk) seemed to be particularly
>>> troublesome. At one point I couldn't even add a few items to the
>>> shopping cart and check out before the OS hung. Hangs seemed to be
>>> less frequent using Chrome instead, but I did still get a few. I
>>> didn't try IE.
>>>
>>> I haven't had so much trouble since mid August, but then again I
>>> haven't been visiting the sites which seemed to be triggering the
>>> problem so much lately either. Still get a couple of unexplained hangs
>>> a week though.
>>>
>>> I can't be certain that visiting the web sites is/was the trigger, or
>>> whether that's just coincidental. As you say, it does seem unlikely!
>>> If anything, I'd suspect some interaction with a Windows update or
>>> perhaps Flash or Avast, since I'd just got back from holiday and
>>> installed a load of updates just before the problems started. Another
>>> possibility for me is overheating or failing hardware (this is a 9
>>> year old laptop so getting on a bit!) but I haven't got around to
>>> investigating further.
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, when the problem happens for you, what do you do to recover?  How do
>> you get the system working again?  Have you checked the Windows Event
>> Viewer for log messages?  There might be a log message around the time
>> the system hangs.
>>
>> Peace..
>>
>> "The Other"  Tom
>>
>
> For me the whole OS completely hangs and I have to kill the power (press
> and hold power button for a few seconds). Ctrl+Alt+Del does nothing, mouse
> pointer doesn't move, and num lock / caps lock don't respond (they often at
> least toggle the keyboard lights even if nothing else responds; in this
> case even that stops responding).
>
> I haven't got around to investigating thoroughly, but things I have tried
> include:
> - Just leaving it for over half an hour to see if it would start
> responding again; it didn't.
> - Checking event logs; there's nothing obviously relevant, except the
> expected complaints during the next startup related to not having been shut
> down properly.
> - Keeping Task Manager / Sysinternals Process Explorer open before it
> hangs, but there's no obvious peak in processor or memory usage, or any
> particular process's activity - but they might just not get a chance to
> update the display when it does hang.
> - Some of the memory and CPU load tests from www.ultimatebootcd.com, but
> they didn't reveal anything and didn't hang.
>
> Can't actually remember whether I checked the disk for errors, I think I
> did but may be worth doing again.
>
> At some point when I have enough time I'll get the lid off and check fans,
> heatsinks, etc. I'm half expecting to find dust or spiders clogging things
> up...
>
>
The common thing with Ady is that you both have the Avast Antivirus. An
antivirus runs as a "system service" on Windows,
and if something goes terribly wrong in the system service, then the whole
operating system may misbehave.
Since you do not have yet a set of steps to reproduce the problem, it is
extremely difficult to figure out the issue.

Simos

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