Thanks Tom for your replies and thoughts!! I did more testing and submitted two bug reports agains the latest 5.1 alpha 1, since the problem is in that version, too.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95503 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95502 It seems that adding a motion path is what corrupts the output PPTX file, and I noticed as I was testing that groups are not retained (i.e. objects become separated) when saving from Impress to PPTX... Hope someone would notice these problems. I wish I can donate to help fix these specific bugs!!! Is there a company/developer that we can pay to fix specific bugs or even add features? Or do people do bug fixing bounties? Do these approaches work? Thanks. On 12/10/2015, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi :) > Thanks for your reply and your good humour! :) > > 2. Since it seems to be the bug Tim linked to i agree that trying "Still" > wont make any difference. > > 4. I agree about Impress. Several LO-fanboys, over the years, have said > that Impress is worse than Powerpoint. But comparing the merits of "truly > horrible" with "a bit worse" is a non-starter for me. > > 1. I doubt it's possible to post bug-reports about PptX let alone Ppt - > and even if you do i can't imagine anyone taking notice. One of the joys > of OpenSource and OpenStandards is that you can post bug-reports about the > format itself or about the implementation of it fairly easily. Some dev > might even take notice of it and suddenly work on it - either here or at > Oasis. > > 4. Sadly not many devs seem to take much notice of Impress. Draw appears > to be sexier and more glamorous and Writer appears to be the one that gets > most of the attention. There are a lot of people working on most of the > modules and even a tiny team working on Base now apparently but Writer > seems to be the most attractive or maybe it's the easiest one to get > started on. > > 3. I thought you just double-click on it without copying it across and it > 'just magically' opened from the usb-stick? I didn't think you had to > transfer anything? > > 3. Also i heard or read somewhere that the portable version could be > installed on a Cloud? I'm not sure if that's an internal home/corporate > Cloud or really "out there"? Also that would rely on a decent connection > speed and that can often be a problem for me. > > 3. I have noticed a huge difference between Usb 1.1 - 2.0 and Usb 3.(?). > A friend with a Usb 3 port on a new laptop has a MUCH higher transfer speed > with both my sticks. Of my sticks the cheaper old 8Gb Usb 2.0 one is > fairly desperate on my old desktop whereas the newer, much more expensive > 32Gb Usb 3 is only a bit annoying in it. So i'm not sure if it's age, > quality, size or something else that is the biggest factor but all seem to > combine to make my older one a bit of a pain (except on the ultra-new > laptop). > > 4. On Gnu&Linux (Ubuntu 14.04) i was looking for something else in my > package manager and found what seemed to be tons of different programs for > creating slide-shows and presentations. Of course now that i'm looking for > them deliberately i can't find any! > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > On 12 October 2015 at 17:30, Advrk Aplmrkt <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks Tim and Tom for your quick responses. >> >> I *think* what I am experiencing might be related to the bug report >> you mentioned, I'll check again soon to see. >> >> In response to Tom: >> >> 1. I generally avoid the 2007-2013 Microsoft XML format since I am >> aware of all its problems... :) Unfortunately when I create a >> presentation with Impress and save it as a .ppt (without the "x"), >> many things are not retained, or don't appear correctly when opened in >> any version of PowerPoint!! Would people still fix bugs for .ppt >> support if I report them? I'm still having loads of problems with >> .ppt. >> >> 2. According to the bug report Tim mentioned, the bug has been around >> for a long time. So using the "still" verses the "fresh" branches will >> probably not help much... I can provide the file I'm having problems >> with, and if someone can test it with their installation of still >> that'd be great because I don't have it. >> >> 3. Thanks for the links to portable LibreOffice. Actually that is what >> I always try to do: Bring a portable version with me. But like you >> said sometimes you don't get USB access, and the portable version >> takes *FOREVER* to transfer to and from my USB drive: there are >> millions of tiny files so the transfer can take up to an hour!! What >> is the problem??? (honest question) I hope this can be addressed in a >> future portable version. >> >> 4. I agree Microsoft PowerPoint is one of the worst presentation >> programs, and frankly I don't think LibreOffice Impress is much better >> feature-wise, I just like to use it because it is freedom respecting >> software. I have been looking for a good presentation software for >> almost a decade (I'm not kidding), and I think by far the best one is >> still Apple Keynote. Unfortunately it is super proprietary, only runs >> on Macs, and the alleged support for it in Impress is only for very >> very early versions of Keynote. I have a HUGE wishlist of things for >> LibreOffice Impress that would make it up to par with Apple Keynote, >> but no one I've talked to seem to care..... :( :( Is there a mechanism >> in the development of LibreOffice where I can help make this happen? >> Unfortunately I'm not a programmer... >> >> Anyway, thanks for your replies. I'll check if my problem is exactly >> the one reported and report back here. >> >> On 11/10/2015, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi :) >> > I mostly just agree with Tim Lloyd but with more detail and >> > alternatives. >> > >> > >> > 1. Always avoid the 2007-2013 Microsoft XML format!!! >> > >> > It's not just one format, for a start! It's so inconsistently >> implemented >> > in each version of MS Office that they call each version a new >> > "transitional" format. They just can't seem to quite implement their >> > own >> > format properly or even consistently. It's highly likely that you'd >> > have >> > the same problem if you'd created the Pptx in, say MS Office 2007 and >> then >> > tried to open it in MS Office 2013. >> > >> > By stunning coincidence that means people often have to buy a different >> > version of MS Office in order to be able to work together with other >> people >> > they know. Possibly one of the few moves at the end of Steve Bullmer's >> > reign that seemed to help keep their profits up but all by accident of >> > course. >> > >> > The older MS format (2003/Xp and earlier) "ppt" (without the X for XML) >> is >> > MUCH more reliable and much more consistently applied across their own >> > products and can also be handled better by almost all non-Microsoft >> > products. >> > >> > Note that it was just after pretty much all other relevant software >> > could >> > easily handle the older Microsoft format that MS suddenly produced this >> > newer format, allegedly releasing it "to improve interoperability" but >> > actually appearing to have quite the opposite effect. >> > >> > So even if you are using a version of MS Office it's well worth doing >> > File - "Save As ..." >> > and using the older MS format. >> > >> > >> > 2. Have all the versions of LibreOffice been in the "Fresh" branch? >> > Please try the latest in the "Still" branch. The way branches work is >> that >> > preceding versions of the same branch are unlikely to have fixed the >> > problem. It's only by going to an earlier branch that you get in front >> of >> > a regression but really this is back-to-front thinking and generally >> things >> > tend to get a lot better rather than worse, despite what you may have >> read >> > here recently! If you think of the 3rd digit as a "Service Pack" >> > number >> > you get a clearer idea of what's going on. The "Still" branch has a >> higher >> > "Sp" so it's fixed more of it's teething problems. >> > >> > >> > 3. Do you really need to do a PowerPoint presentation? You can >> 'install' >> > LibreOffice on a usb-stick and then use it on almost any Windows >> > machine. >> > I'm not sure how well it works as i know some places now lock-down >> > their >> > usb-ports so that people can't copying anything. >> > http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?list.37 >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinPenPack >> > >> > http://alternativeto.net/software/winpenpack/ >> > >> > https://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable-versions/ >> > >> > >> > 4. Also there are much better programs for writing presentations. >> > Powerpoint is one of the worst. The only advantage with Impress or >> > Powerpoint is that they are part of the office suite and it may be >> > easier >> > to use things created in other programs/elements/apps/modules of the >> suite >> > within your presentation. Also it's what 'everyone' seems to be using. >> > >> > Anyway good luck and regards from >> > Tom :) >> > >> > >> > >> > On 11 October 2015 at 23:12, Tim Lloyd <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> this looks like your problem, can you confirm pls? >> >> >> >> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59323 >> >> >> >> If this is the same it is worth adding your comments. >> >> >> >> As a workaround though, is it possible to save the file as .ppt? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/10/15 08:07, avamk wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hello, >> >>> >> >>> I've noticed that .pptx files (I selected the Microsoft PowerPoint >> >>> 2007-2013 XML format) I created and saved with LibreOffice Impress >> 5.0.x >> >>> (I >> >>> tried both 5.0.2 the version before it) do not open correctly in >> >>> Microsoft >> >>> Office 2010. When opening, PowerPoint tells me that the file is >> >>> corrupted, >> >>> and clicking the Repair button either fails or results in a file with >> >>> many >> >>> elements missing or messed up. This happens for LibreOffice Impress >> >>> created >> >>> .pptx files from Linux, Mac, and Windows versions of LibreOffice. >> >>> >> >>> I can provide more detail or an example file, but I just wanted to >> >>> ask >> >>> first >> >>> if this is a known problem and is being fixed??? This is a big show >> >>> stopping >> >>> bug for me.... Thanks for your help! >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
