Hi :) +1 Regards from Tom :)
On 3 February 2017 at 01:57, gordon cooper <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 > > Gordon. > > > On 03/02/17 13:12, Remy Gauthier wrote: > >> Euh, I think this thread should be cut and closed. It is becoming more >> and more a senseless discussion on the good or not so good ways of >> moderating a mailing list and as well, and this is what I find >> particularly disturbing, an Anne-ology bashing session. >> >> Thank you. >> >> RG. >> >> >> Le jeudi 02 février 2017 à 17:16 +0000, Peter Hillier-Brook a écrit : >> >>> Charles, one can only admire your patience, but isn't it time to put >>>> >>> a >> >>> stop to this nonsense with anne-ology (who I'm sure is not the >>> delightful Maureen, despite her use of the "-ology" suffix). >>> >>> Who has the authority to remove her from the moderator role, for >>>> >>> which >> >>> she seems singularly un-qualified? >>> >>> On 02/02/17 13:51, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: >>> >>>> Anne-ology, >>>> >>>> You are right, that is the general meaning of moderation. However, >>>>>> >>>>> when >> >>> we talk about moderation here, we talk about mailing list >>>>>> >>>>> moderation. >> >>> When we talk about moderator, we refer to a mailing list moderator, >>>>>> >>>>> not >> >>> to concepts such as panel moderators. A mailing list moderator has >>>>>> >>>>> a >> >>> specific role, which somewhat relates to the one of a moderator but >>>>>> >>>>> is >> >>> much more strict: it has been described a bit earlier but let me >>>>>> >>>>> restate >> >>> it: A mailing list moderator is in charge of the management of the >>>> >>>>> mailing list. This role mostly includes moderating emails, which >>>>>> >>>>> means: >> >>> - finding legitimate emails of posters who are not subscribed to >>>>>> >>>>> the >> >>> mailing list and moderating them as in publishing them to the list >>>>>> >>>>> (NOT >> >>> REPLYING TO THEM FIRST) >>>> - rejecting incoming illegitimate emails, such as spam. >>>> >>>> Another role of the list moderator usually (but not always) >>>>>> >>>>> involves: >> >>> - adding or unsubscribing email addresses per request of their >>>>>> >>>>> owner >> >>> - helping mailing list subscribers with similar tasks or technical >>>> issues directly related to their mailing list subscription >>>> - reminding everyone to be courteous >>>> >>>>> - following the netiquette (http://www.netiquette.org) and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> reminding >> >>> mailing list subscribers to comply with it. >>>> >>>> Among all these points only the last two may relate somewhat more >>>>>> >>>>> the >> >>> broader meaning of "moderation". >>>> >>>> In short your daily task is not one moderation but rather one of >>>> >>>>> technical management. It also implies that you know how to post >>>>>> >>>>> properly >> >>> and understand the concept of mailing list discussion threads. From >>>>>> >>>>> my >> >>> perspective it seems you are not familiar with the concept,or that >>>>>> >>>>> you >> >>> perhaps have no desire to become acquainted with these notions >>>>>> >>>>> which >> >>> would be problematic for a mailing list moderator. Hence, there is >>>>>> >>>>> no >> >>> need to "clean" any "cruft from an email. Signs, mentions of date, >>>>>> >>>>> time, >> >>> etc. in an email are part of its information and may form a part of >>>>>> >>>>> the >> >>> thread. We need that. I notice you have managed to start a new >>>>>> >>>>> thread >> >>> "Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ..." that is not integrated >>>>>> >>>>> with >> >>> the original thread. This is not correct and you seem to do this >>>>>> >>>>> for >> >>> each one of your reply. >>>> >>>> Below is one page belonging to another community that may be >>>>>> >>>>> helpful to >> >>> you: >>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>>> >>>> Hope this helps, >>>> >>>> Charles >>>> (who, by top-posting, does not comply to the netiquette). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 02.02.2017 01:56, anne-ology a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Do you know what moderation means? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> moderation := "the avoidance of excess or extremes, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> especially in >> >>> one's behavior or political opinions" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: toki <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ... >>>>> To: >>>>> >>>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 01/31/2017 01:54 PM, Tom Davies wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It is not always possible to "do the right thing" so it is good >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that >> >>> The correct thing is to _approve_ the message, not _respond_ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> within the >> >>> message. As such, it is _always_ possible to do the right thing. >>>>> >>>>> That is basic moderation 101 >>>>> >>>>> jonathon >>>>> >>>> >>> > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-uns > ubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
