Hi :) I hadn't realised the Firefox was previously called "Mozilla Firebird" after being forced to rename itself from Phoenix due to name infringement with "Phoenix Technologies". Annoyingly for them Firebird was also taken but they were was less hostile to Firefox about possible name infringement.
Of course you know Firefox used to be Netscape which was (ime) far, far better than any other web-browser but lost a marketting war with Microsquish. I just hadn't known about the intermediate names Firefox went through around 20 years ago. Ironically LibreOffice uses the "Mozilla License" as well as the LGPL and now is going to be using the Firebird product that kinda pushed Mozilla into having to rebrand themselves a 3rd time! I think it shows that moving away from MS is a move towards a much more co-operative but still competitive free-trade market. Also that these young revolutionary anti-corporate new upstarts are actually decades-old companies/communities. Instead of getting bogged down into a kludgy unweildy mess, 'we' have remained innovative and fresh by allowing each community to retain it's indepence and focus. Regards from a Tom :) On Sun, 27 May 2018 10:15 Tom Davies, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi :) > Access can be forced into using an external database and some people claim > it's easy but it makes a kludgy mess that makes it difficult and risky to > update Access. It pushes people into buying other M$ database programs if > they need to upscale an Access database. Access just is not designed to be > used that way. Base is. > > Java was widely advertised as being by far the best and sometimes as the > only way to write code that could be used on any machine using any OS. > Even today there are many expensive training courses teaching people how to > use it. It's still kinda like "The Emporer's New Clothes". > > Hsqldb is an excellent fast and light database program but it needs to be > kept updated, just like any program. The version hard-coded into LO can't > be updated and is stuck on some ancient transitional version. The > hard-coding was allegedly done by just 2 people without the support of the > Hsqldb community and against the wishes of LO's former, former, former > owners and community - however it did make it more competitive with > Access. So it was a heroic effort and should have been supported and > applauded. > > Future iterations of the in-built hsqldb(ish) were probably envisaged as > being closer to proper Hsqldb and as being made easier to update&upgrade - > but without the support of either community or their leadership the code > just stagnated for a few decades instead. People sniping at each other and > pulling in opposing directions rather than helping and supporting each > other doesn't always work well. > > The main reasons I really like the move to Firebird are; > 1. The name is more excitingly fashionable and easier to market > 2. Tactically good to have a refreshing break from our tragic past > regardless of whether it might have been easier and more consistent to just > upgrade to a newer, easier to upgrade, purer version of Hsqldb. (Oddly it > would have been harder to go with Hsqldb and there discussions about which > way to go.) > 3. The move to C++ and away from Java - even though it's a step backwards > to a more geeky, less marketable name. > > It is really great to see Base getting some much needed love and tlc. It > deserves it. > > Regards from > a Tom :) > > > > > > > > On Sun, 27 May 2018 07:51 Robert Großkopf, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi *, >> >> I 'm using the internal database for deveopement of databases, with >> pupils in scool and for some little projects, which only need a >> standalone-database. For "normal" use I also prefer MariaDB. The native >> driver had some (little) problems here so I switched to JDBC. I am using >> >> jdbc:mysql://«hostname»:3306/«databasename»?autoReconnect=true >> >> to connect to MariaDB and don't loose the connection to the server. >> >> Problem for MariaDB/MySQL: You have to know much about SQL or you must >> create the tables with PHPMyAdmin or something else for using >> Innodb-tables and create relationships between them. >> >> Regards >> >> Robert >> -- >> Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de >> LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > > On Sun, 27 May 2018 07:51 Robert Großkopf, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi *, >> >> I 'm using the internal database for deveopement of databases, with >> pupils in scool and for some little projects, which only need a >> standalone-database. For "normal" use I also prefer MariaDB. The native >> driver had some (little) problems here so I switched to JDBC. I am using >> >> jdbc:mysql://«hostname»:3306/«databasename»?autoReconnect=true >> >> to connect to MariaDB and don't loose the connection to the server. >> >> Problem for MariaDB/MySQL: You have to know much about SQL or you must >> create the tables with PHPMyAdmin or something else for using >> Innodb-tables and create relationships between them. >> >> Regards >> >> Robert >> -- >> Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de >> LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
