Hi Regina,

On 2022-04-25 04:25, Regina Henschel wrote:
John Kaufmann schrieb am 24.04.2022 um 14:52:
In years of using OO/LO (now @ 7.1.4.2), I have never been interested in the 
Gallery of multimedia objects. Now I have an application for it, and can't see 
how to execute a simple inclusion of a graphic without its attached descriptive 
text.

Do you mean the text, which is included in shapes of theme "Flow chart"? Insert 
the object and mark it. Then press key F2 to enter edit mode. Now you can delete the text 
with backspace key.

That's it!

Some of the objects in the "Flow chart" gallery theme are groups. In that case 
you first need to enter the group (see item in context menu) and then you can select the 
object, which actually has the text.

I assumed it was a group, but did not find the key to un-group it. (I was looking for options like 
"Ungroup" or "Edit" or "Properties".) I should remember F2, but seldom use it; 
now I will do so more often. Still, it would probably be nice if the context menu included that. I should 
check bugs.documentfoundation.org to see if someone has filed such request.

As I said to Dave, in the context of the wealth of tools LO offers: every day is a 
school day, and I like that.  But this episode has raised a sometimes-recurring 
question about how those tools are coordinated. Dave suggested to forget the 
Gallery (at least for this purpose) and use Insert>Shape to the same end. That 
worked fine, but left me wondering about use of the Gallery.  You pointed out that 
the Gallery is fine for this purpose (in fact, I prefer the equivalent graphic, 
which is different from the brace in the Shapes library), for an even better 
result.

I'm sure there's a lot of history behind why those two approaches coexist, 
apparently independently. Are they in fact independent? Is this a case where 
one would prune/rationalize the tools to a common base (maybe with multiple 
entry points in the user interface) if time allowed, or is there a positive 
benefit from maintaining both the Shapes menu and the Gallery as separate 
graphics libraries? If the latter, how do you decide where to add a new graphic 
or collection of graphics?

Thanks so much for your insight.

Kind regards,
John

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