Hi Budge,

I suspected (and still suspect) that the mail configuration for 
[email protected] is at least partly implicated in the problem, because the 
list probably (almost surely?) has other gmail users (the list admin could 
confirm that), none of which bounce posts. IAC, (a) I have no problem sending 
mail for the account I'm currently using to my gmail account, which (b) has 
/no/ handling by an outlook.com server.

I also suspected that the list SMTP server might be implicated, because and my 
direct mail to [email protected] seemed to be received normally (as I 
expected from my own gmail account).  However, 10 hours(!) after sending that, 
I also got a bounce response to my direct mail, so the problem is not limited 
to list mail. Moreover, the long delay on my DM bounce adds to the strangeness: 
what kind of mail server takes so long to issue a bounce error message? - 
curiouser and curiouser - again, though, it was not a /gmail/ bounce. IAC, I 
forwarded that bounce to my ISP for response and, like you, will post the 
results.

Kind regards,
John


On 2023-07-08 14:15, Budge wrote:
Hi John,
I checked out the Google link on authentication and it seems that the problem 
probably lies with my ISP.  I have asked him to check the headers to find out 
if the problem is with him or further away. Will let you know what I learn.
Regards,
Budge.

On 07/07/2023 17:45, John Kaufmann wrote:
Your email has not been hacked. All of my (and presumably others') posts to the 
list in the last few days have returned that bounce from [email protected] - 
probably a list subscriber. The first obvious curiosity about this is that it's 
a gmail address, but the bounce comes from [email protected], so it's not 
gmail bouncing the message; likely there's an interesting mail configuration 
issue -- and on the list side as well, since the bounce is returned to the 
poster rather than to the list.

As [email protected] is the only list subscriber bouncing list mail, I wrote 
directly, to see if there is a response from my email address. It did NOT 
bounce, so the problem presumably lies in a list configuration interaction with 
that user's mail configuration. If there is a reply, I will of course report it.

jk

On 2023-07-06 11:02, Budge wrote:

... something strange happened in the background when I first asked how to 
renew.
I had from [email protected] the following message:-

*mx.google.com rejected your message to the following email addresses:*

[email protected]
Your message wasn't delivered because the recipient's email provider rejected 
it.

*mx.google.com gave this error:
This mail is unauthenticated, which poses a security risk to the sender and 
Gmail users, and has been blocked. The sender must authenticate with at least 
one of SPF or DKIM. For this message, DKIM checks did not pass and SPF check 
for [errichel.co.uk] did not pass with ip: [2a01:111:f400:7e8b::207]. The 
sender should visit https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication 
for instructions on setting up authentication. 
p13-20020a056402074d00b0051bfa6da365si551974edy.585 - gsmtp
*

No idea why or what.  Whoever uses Outlook anyway but does it mean my mail has 
been hacked?





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