Hi Philip,
You have introduced a useful perspective [which has given me much to think
about]: the Drawing toolbar can insert a Text Box, not a Text Frame.
Unfortunately, the Writer Guide and online Help are silent on this topic, so
some testing is needed to work out the differences, which are subtle:
- A Text Frame is conceptually a block of text, very much aware of the paradigm
of putting text on paper. It understands page sizes and positions and mutual
interference with other text (inside or outside of frames) on the page. But it
/can't/ be rotated.
- A Text Box is a drawing object and, like any other drawing object, not really
aware of page size or other text on the page, though it does have Wrap
properties to force other text or drawing objects to respect its boundaries.
Importantly for my current purpose, a Text Box /can/ be rotated.
From a design standpoint, it would probably be beneficial to understand the
motivations that prompted development of each of these tools, but that's a
problem for another day. IAC, going back to the problem that started this
thread, I will try putting the table inside a Text Box (not a Frame) to occupy
the center of the booklet. If there are anchoring or wrapping problems, the
Text Box may need to be put inside a Frame. If there are no further
contributions to this thread, I will report back to tie up loose ends on this
thread.
Thanks for all proposals to solve this problem,
John
On 2024-07-30 08:30, Philip Jackson wrote:
. . .
What about trying the Drawing toolbar and inserting a text frame - that can be
rotated from the properties list?
Philip
On 30/07/2024 11:57, John Kaufmann wrote:
Mike,
If I understand correctly, your suggestion addresses how to simulate a
double-wide page at the center, using two frames. But that's not my problem.
There is no problem having two different page sizes. That is just a matter of
defining two page styles, then switching to the double-wide page style for just
the middle of the booklet.
My problem is simply how to rotate a frame - I can't recall how to do that in
LO. [I'm beginning to wonder if I ever did that with Writer; maybe it was with
WordPerfect.] If you know how to rotate a frame in Writer, I would be grateful
to know that.
John
On 2024-07-30 00:58, Michael Coughlin wrote:
John:
I'm no expert in Libre Office, so please forgive me if I don't fully understand
your situation. My (perhaps very amateur approach) was to suggest that you
treat the centerfold you need by creating two full-page frames, one for the
left-hand page and one for the right-hand page. Put your text into each frame
by creating the left page's text and then rotating it t90 degrees to butt it
up with the text created for the right=hand page, text that you also rotated 90
degrees. Then, move the respective text blocks so they come close to the gutter
edges of both pages and appear to butt together.
Somewhere, I read about how to create a landscape-page spread in a document
that otherwise is made up of portrait pages, but I can't just now remember
where I saw that information. I think it was done by inserting two pages, both
with landscape orientation, into your existing portrait orientation document.
Mike
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