Sorry, no I missed that (didn't see "applied styles" on the list).

That gives me what I would expect, 9 styles in use, default and normal 
paragraph styles, body text,
footer, footnote, caption, table contents, table heading, and frame contents.  
I think these are
defined in the default style.  Nothing hits me as odd there.

Thanks,

John
======
On Wed, 2025-05-28 at 16:28 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:
> John -
> 
> When you looked at View > Styles, did you select Applied Styles from the 
> drop-down list at the bottom? The list should contain only the styles 
> that are actually being used.
> 
> Good luck with the reformatting. I hope that using the correct font 
> fixes things.
> 
> - Robert
> 
> On 2025-05-28 15:37, John Iliffe wrote:
> > Thanks Robert:
> > 
> > The formatting toolbar bounces back and forth between "default paragraph 
> > formatting" and
> > "normal"
> > depending on which paragraph I have under the cursor.  This doesn't seem to 
> > be related to where
> > the
> > border/text box shading was applied.  No other formats that I could find.  
> > When I open
> > view|styles
> > there are several page lengths of entries in the list.  Looks like all 
> > possibilities since I
> > know
> > some of them would not be used as I don't know what they are.
> > 
> > When I was scrolling through the document I did notice a number of places 
> > where text boxes
> > overlay
> > the base text even though they are formatted as wrap right or left, where 
> > drawings are not
> > obeying
> > their anchor points, sometimes on the wrong page, etc.  So I have some 
> > major reformatting to do
> > to
> > this chapter now that I have it back in a workable form.  It would seem, 
> > although I haven't
> > checked
> > in detail yet, that the tts fonts that we use (third-party, commercial) did 
> > not get included on
> > the
> > last update since the fonts are not identified with their proper names.  LO 
> > seems to be trying
> > to
> > find a similar font and that has everything spread around on the pages 
> > incorrectly because the
> > point
> > size is wrong for these fonts.  I pulled a chapter that hasn't been changed 
> > and that is muddled
> > too
> > so I'm going to try to re-import the fonts.  That might fix the problem of 
> > incorrect spacing.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > John
> > ======
> > On Tue, 2025-05-27 at 06:51 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:
> > > John -
> > > 
> > > I'm glad your problem has been identified. I'm curious about why it
> > > affect some paragraphs and not others. Have you checked what paragraph
> > > style is indicated at the left end of the Formatting toolbar (near the
> > > top of the LO window)? My guess is that, for historical reasons, you
> > > have a mix of different paragraph styles being used. It would be good to
> > > identify whether that is the case, because it can lead to
> > > other formatting inconsistencies, sometimes subtle.
> > > 
> > > If you open the Styles dialogue (View > Styles) and select Applied
> > > Styles from the drop-down menu at the bottom, you can immediately see a
> > > list of all the styles that are used in the document.
> > > 
> > > - Robert
> > > 
> > > On 2025-05-26 21:00, John Iliffe wrote:
> > > > Thanks to everyone who replied to this request.
> > > > 
> > > > Steve Edmonds was kind enough to take a look at the full document and 
> > > > he found out how to
> > > > remove
> > > > the
> > > > extra text boxes.  He suggested that I could highlight any of the 
> > > > affected paragraphs and
> > > > then
> > > > edit
> > > > the border style to set the border to no border.  Interestingly, when I 
> > > > did that to one
> > > > paragraph
> > > > they all went back to where they should have been.
> > > > 
> > > > There were two odd features to this problem: first not all paragraphs 
> > > > were affected; second
> > > > some
> > > > bulleted lists had the list items boxed and some second level items 
> > > > (not all) were boxed
> > > > again
> > > > inside the unwanted box so I ended up with nested boxes.
> > > > 
> > > > I must agree that in trying to fix it I was thinking inside a border 
> > > > myself because when the
> > > > problem
> > > > occurred I was trying to insert a text box I expected the problem to be 
> > > > related to text
> > > > boxes
> > > > and it
> > > > was actually an errant paragraph style.  Why it only hit some and not 
> > > > all paragraphs and why
> > > > bulleted lists were also hit in some cases remains a mystery (to me 
> > > > anyway!).
> > > > 
> > > > I would like to give a general statement of what happened in case 
> > > > anyone else encounters
> > > > something
> > > > similar but frankly I don't understand either the cause or the fix so I 
> > > > have nothing of
> > > > interest
> > > > to
> > > > say except it sure is nice to have folks who are willing to help.
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > > ======
> > > > On Sat, 2025-05-24 at 20:35 -0500, Michael Reich wrote:
> > > > > It sounds like you may have unwittingly edited the paragraph style to 
> > > > > add the box, and now
> > > > > all
> > > > > paragraphs with that same style have a box.  Take a look at your 
> > > > > paragraph styles?  If
> > > > > that’s
> > > > > the
> > > > > case, Libreoffice didn’t malfunction, but complied with what you may 
> > > > > have inadvertently
> > > > > done.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > f them.  The preference seems to be for bulleted lists, of which 
> > > > > > there are many, to have
> > > > > > each
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > item boxed but some paragraphs have been boxed too, sort of 
> > > > > > randomly.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Some boxes are supposed to be there and were in the original that I 
> > > > > > was editing but most
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > required at all.  Edit|Undo doesn't get rid of them and now I have 
> > > > > > saved the document so
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > lose the updates so I can't try that again.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The problem here is that I am updating a chapter of a book and I 
> > > > > > could pull it in from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > previous
> > > > > > edition but then I would have to find and retype all the changes 
> > > > > > and there is no
> > > > > > reference
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > > The chapter is 37 pages long and contains embedded graphics so I 
> > > > > > have to be careful what
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > change.
> > > > > > In the end I would still need to insert the text box.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To add insult to injury I'm on a deadline to get the next edition 
> > > > > > out.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Has anyone any idea what might have happened?  Better yet how can I 
> > > > > > unbox all the
> > > > > > previously
> > > > > > existing  text without losing the text in the boxes?  It is 
> > > > > > possible that while typing I
> > > > > > accidentally hit a control key but if so I don't know which.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Info:   LO 24.8.6.2 (X86_64)
> > > > > >    Fedora 41
> > > > > > Document is in .odt format but has been edited/converted many times 
> > > > > > in other word
> > > > > > processors
> > > > > > starting with Word Perfect 5!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Any suggestions very much appreciated!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > John

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