Sorry, no I missed that (didn't see "applied styles" on the list).
That gives me what I would expect, 9 styles in use, default and normal paragraph styles, body text, footer, footnote, caption, table contents, table heading, and frame contents. I think these are defined in the default style. Nothing hits me as odd there. Thanks, John ====== On Wed, 2025-05-28 at 16:28 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote: > John - > > When you looked at View > Styles, did you select Applied Styles from the > drop-down list at the bottom? The list should contain only the styles > that are actually being used. > > Good luck with the reformatting. I hope that using the correct font > fixes things. > > - Robert > > On 2025-05-28 15:37, John Iliffe wrote: > > Thanks Robert: > > > > The formatting toolbar bounces back and forth between "default paragraph > > formatting" and > > "normal" > > depending on which paragraph I have under the cursor. This doesn't seem to > > be related to where > > the > > border/text box shading was applied. No other formats that I could find. > > When I open > > view|styles > > there are several page lengths of entries in the list. Looks like all > > possibilities since I > > know > > some of them would not be used as I don't know what they are. > > > > When I was scrolling through the document I did notice a number of places > > where text boxes > > overlay > > the base text even though they are formatted as wrap right or left, where > > drawings are not > > obeying > > their anchor points, sometimes on the wrong page, etc. So I have some > > major reformatting to do > > to > > this chapter now that I have it back in a workable form. It would seem, > > although I haven't > > checked > > in detail yet, that the tts fonts that we use (third-party, commercial) did > > not get included on > > the > > last update since the fonts are not identified with their proper names. LO > > seems to be trying > > to > > find a similar font and that has everything spread around on the pages > > incorrectly because the > > point > > size is wrong for these fonts. I pulled a chapter that hasn't been changed > > and that is muddled > > too > > so I'm going to try to re-import the fonts. That might fix the problem of > > incorrect spacing. > > > > Regards, > > > > John > > ====== > > On Tue, 2025-05-27 at 06:51 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote: > > > John - > > > > > > I'm glad your problem has been identified. I'm curious about why it > > > affect some paragraphs and not others. Have you checked what paragraph > > > style is indicated at the left end of the Formatting toolbar (near the > > > top of the LO window)? My guess is that, for historical reasons, you > > > have a mix of different paragraph styles being used. It would be good to > > > identify whether that is the case, because it can lead to > > > other formatting inconsistencies, sometimes subtle. > > > > > > If you open the Styles dialogue (View > Styles) and select Applied > > > Styles from the drop-down menu at the bottom, you can immediately see a > > > list of all the styles that are used in the document. > > > > > > - Robert > > > > > > On 2025-05-26 21:00, John Iliffe wrote: > > > > Thanks to everyone who replied to this request. > > > > > > > > Steve Edmonds was kind enough to take a look at the full document and > > > > he found out how to > > > > remove > > > > the > > > > extra text boxes. He suggested that I could highlight any of the > > > > affected paragraphs and > > > > then > > > > edit > > > > the border style to set the border to no border. Interestingly, when I > > > > did that to one > > > > paragraph > > > > they all went back to where they should have been. > > > > > > > > There were two odd features to this problem: first not all paragraphs > > > > were affected; second > > > > some > > > > bulleted lists had the list items boxed and some second level items > > > > (not all) were boxed > > > > again > > > > inside the unwanted box so I ended up with nested boxes. > > > > > > > > I must agree that in trying to fix it I was thinking inside a border > > > > myself because when the > > > > problem > > > > occurred I was trying to insert a text box I expected the problem to be > > > > related to text > > > > boxes > > > > and it > > > > was actually an errant paragraph style. Why it only hit some and not > > > > all paragraphs and why > > > > bulleted lists were also hit in some cases remains a mystery (to me > > > > anyway!). > > > > > > > > I would like to give a general statement of what happened in case > > > > anyone else encounters > > > > something > > > > similar but frankly I don't understand either the cause or the fix so I > > > > have nothing of > > > > interest > > > > to > > > > say except it sure is nice to have folks who are willing to help. > > > > > > > > John > > > > ====== > > > > On Sat, 2025-05-24 at 20:35 -0500, Michael Reich wrote: > > > > > It sounds like you may have unwittingly edited the paragraph style to > > > > > add the box, and now > > > > > all > > > > > paragraphs with that same style have a box. Take a look at your > > > > > paragraph styles? If > > > > > that’s > > > > > the > > > > > case, Libreoffice didn’t malfunction, but complied with what you may > > > > > have inadvertently > > > > > done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f them. The preference seems to be for bulleted lists, of which > > > > > > there are many, to have > > > > > > each > > > > > > list > > > > > > item boxed but some paragraphs have been boxed too, sort of > > > > > > randomly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some boxes are supposed to be there and were in the original that I > > > > > > was editing but most > > > > > > are > > > > > > not > > > > > > required at all. Edit|Undo doesn't get rid of them and now I have > > > > > > saved the document so > > > > > > as > > > > > > not > > > > > > to > > > > > > lose the updates so I can't try that again. > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem here is that I am updating a chapter of a book and I > > > > > > could pull it in from > > > > > > the > > > > > > previous > > > > > > edition but then I would have to find and retype all the changes > > > > > > and there is no > > > > > > reference > > > > > > for > > > > > > that. > > > > > > The chapter is 37 pages long and contains embedded graphics so I > > > > > > have to be careful what > > > > > > I > > > > > > change. > > > > > > In the end I would still need to insert the text box. > > > > > > > > > > > > To add insult to injury I'm on a deadline to get the next edition > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone any idea what might have happened? Better yet how can I > > > > > > unbox all the > > > > > > previously > > > > > > existing text without losing the text in the boxes? It is > > > > > > possible that while typing I > > > > > > accidentally hit a control key but if so I don't know which. > > > > > > > > > > > > Info: LO 24.8.6.2 (X86_64) > > > > > > Fedora 41 > > > > > > Document is in .odt format but has been edited/converted many times > > > > > > in other word > > > > > > processors > > > > > > starting with Word Perfect 5! > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions very much appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > John -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy