Dear John,

I have not had issues with crashes, nor with broken features and was an early 
adopter of OpenOffice and later the LibreOffice branch.  Before that I used 
StarOffice on a Sun Microsystems BSD workstation in the late 1980s. I am a 
physicist, and my involvement was mainly on the computational physics and 3D 
imaging and graphics of radiation dose distributions in radiation therapy.  So, 
my writing was and mainly is technical rather than creative, although being a 
scientist and teacher requires both in an more or less integrated fashion.

One of the problems of those of us who learned on the more traditional WP 
systems is we are accustomed to direct control of formatting.  We want to do 
what we want to do before our eyes right now, as a stream of conscious as we 
write.  

Star office, and to a lesser extent, OpenOffice and LibreOffice are more 
architectural in their formatting schemes.  This has created conflict over the 
years with me and my writing, but once you get used to it, it can significantly 
increase your productivity and produce a more finished end product without 
having to go back and reformat chapters or volumes to insure consistency of 
your work.  It is this aspect that I have used with great success.

While LibreOffice has had coding bugs over the years, so has MicroSoft and 
Apple variants.  Some of them far more serious than anything I've encountered 
with LibreOffice/OpenOffice and StarOffice.  I started with a program called 
WordPerfect which I think is still being maintained, but I've lost track of it.

Make no mistake, at times, when trying to specifically format a specific item 
in a specific way, in technical writing, I butted heads with the LibreOffice 
programmers.  At times they carried the original Sun/Star concepts way too far, 
making it extremely difficult solve a one time format in a large 
multi-section/chapter document.  Originally, the philosophers of LibreOffice 
Core team were apostles of the framework/template concept, but that has, I 
think, in later releases relaxed considerably and the need for both aspects has 
been recognized and implemented.

Either that or I've grown accustomed to the way it is today, but I think over 
the decades there has been moderation and integration better on both sides.

I think if you follow VS Foote's suggestion and read some of that documentation 
you might see some possibilities you haven't seen before.  Those documents 
didn't exist when I first started using Libre/OpenOffice and there were times I 
was probably lucky I did most of my work on a large desk top that was 
impossible to throw across the room, but today I think LibreOffice is pretty 
solid and beats MSWord/Excel.  

I especially like its macro features and programming interfaces.  I keep a very 
large multi-sheet spreadsheet that manages all of my financial stuff, including 
my retirement plans. Since I am the plan admin and custodian, I have to keep 
numerous records for the IRS and found it was very easy use for these aspects 
and to call python programs that generate documents such as IRS 1099-Rs as 
needed nearly instantly as the program is capable of getting its own asset 
values on days the IRS wants them.

So, for me it was a good move, and I'm glad I stuck with it.

Walt



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On Tuesday, December 9th, 2025 at 09:32, V Stuart Foote 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2025-12-09 09:14, Jon Hughes wrote:
> 
> > I’ve been working on an anthology of short fiction, and using
> > LibreOffice Writer for the project has been an exhausting ordeal. The
> > constant formatting issues, crashes, and broken features have eroded
> > any hope of completing this work with your software. I ultimately
> > abandoned the project, deleted the manuscript, and removed LibreOffice
> > from my machine.
> > 
> > I understand that this is free software, but distributing something so
> > unreliable for serious writing projects is irresponsible to the users
> > who trust it. I’ve lost significant time and effort because of this.
> > 
> > I’m not writing this to be pleasant — I’m writing because I want
> > LibreOffice to do better. Please take this frustration seriously. Tools
> > meant for creative work should help the process, not derail it.
> > 
> > -jrh
> 
> 
> Sorry to hear you've found LibreOffice difficult for your needs.
> 
> But, have you reviewed the comprehensive documentation?
> Writer User Guide and Getting Started [1]
> Berlasso's "To Tame a Writer" [2]
> Byfield/Weber's "Designing with LibreOffice" [3]
> 
> Taking time to first prepare well thought out and styled templates and
> master document assemblages greatly simplify preparing consistent text
> documents of any complexity. Very worth the time to learn to fully use
> the ODF authoring tools LibreOffice provides.
> 
> Please consider another go with a bit better preparation.
> 
> =-refs-=
> [1] https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/
> [2]
> https://frommindtotype.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/ttw24-en.pdf
> [3] https://designingwithlibreoffice.com/?page_id=27
> 
> --
> Stuart
> 
> --


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