OK, I'm now testing the same job, within a parallel environment, to see if
it has an affect.

I can't see anywhere that I set CPU limits.



Regards,
Joseph David Borġ
josephb.org


On 30 January 2014 11:22, Reuti <[email protected]> wrote:

> Am 30.01.2014 um 11:33 schrieb Joe Borġ:
>
> > Did you want the output?  I submitted then in a job, without a PE, on a
> different queue and it lasted the time it was meant to:
> >
> > $ cat test.bash.o164678
> > core file size          (blocks, -c) unlimited
> > data seg size           (kbytes, -d) unlimited
> > scheduling priority             (-e) 0
> > file size               (blocks, -f) unlimited
> > pending signals                 (-i) 256644
> > max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) unlimited
> > max memory size         (kbytes, -m) unlimited
> > open files                      (-n) 4096
> > pipe size            (512 bytes, -p) 8
> > POSIX message queues     (bytes, -q) 819200
> > real-time priority              (-r) 0
> > stack size              (kbytes, -s) unlimited
> > cpu time               (seconds, -t) unlimited
>
> Yes, I thought about a cpu time limit by the kernel - which is not the
> case.
>
> Anyway: do you observe a difference in used CPU time and used wallclock
> time as a trigger when a job is killed? As this job ran to completion, it
> might be a CPU time limit somewhere.
>
> -- Reuti
>
>
> > max user processes              (-u) 256644
> > virtual memory          (kbytes, -v) unlimited
> > file locks                      (-x) unlimited
> > core file size          (blocks, -c) unlimited
> > data seg size           (kbytes, -d) unlimited
> > scheduling priority             (-e) 0
> > file size               (blocks, -f) unlimited
> > pending signals                 (-i) 256644
> > max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) unlimited
> > max memory size         (kbytes, -m) unlimited
> > open files                      (-n) 1024
> > pipe size            (512 bytes, -p) 8
> > POSIX message queues     (bytes, -q) 819200
> > real-time priority              (-r) 0
> > stack size              (kbytes, -s) unlimited
> > cpu time               (seconds, -t) unlimited
> > max user processes              (-u) 256644
> > virtual memory          (kbytes, -v) unlimited
> > file locks                      (-x) unlimited
> > Sleeping for 12 hours zzZZZ
> > Waking up
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Joseph David Borġ
> > josephb.org
> >
> >
> > On 27 January 2014 14:22, Reuti <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Am 27.01.2014 um 11:26 schrieb Joe Borġ:
> >
> > > They're pretty mammoth cluster nodes.  But anyway, the load is set to
> 99 to stop it from rejecting jobs based on load (in this test queue).
> >
> > If you don't want load_thresholds, it can just be set to NONE.
> >
> >
> > > We're not currently using the checkpoint feature either.
> >
> > Can you please submit a job with the two statements:
> >
> > ulimit -aH
> > ulimit -aS
> >
> > -- Reuti
> >
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Joseph David Borġ
> > > josephb.org
> > >
> > >
> > > On 23 January 2014 10:11, Reuti <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Am 23.01.2014 um 10:17 schrieb Joe Borġ:
> > >
> > > > First off, here is the qconf sq.  Anything obvious?
> > > >
> > > > qname                 test.q
> > > > hostlist              @test_rack1 @test_rack2 \
> > > >                       @test_rack3
> > > > seq_no                0
> > > > load_thresholds       load_short=99
> > >
> > > What type of machine is this, with a threshold of 99?
> > >
> > > > suspend_thresholds    NONE
> > > > nsuspend              1
> > > > suspend_interval      00:05:00
> > > > priority              0
> > > > min_cpu_interval      00:05:00
> > > > processors            UNDEFINED
> > > > qtype                 BATCH INTERACTIVE
> > > > ckpt_list             test.ckpt
> > >
> > > We these jobs submitted using a checkpointing interface?
> > > Is this queue subordinated to any other queue?
> > >
> > > --Reuti
> > >
> > >
> > > > pe_list               test.pe
> > > > rerun                 TRUE
> > > > slots                 1,[@test_rack1=8],[@test_rack2=8], \
> > > >                       [@test_rack3=8]
> > > > tmpdir                /tmp
> > > > shell                 /bin/sh
> > > > prolog                NONE
> > > > epilog                NONE
> > > > shell_start_mode      unix_behavior
> > > > starter_method        NONE
> > > > suspend_method        NONE
> > > > resume_method         NONE
> > > > terminate_method      NONE
> > > > notify                00:00:60
> > > > owner_list            NONE
> > > > user_lists            NONE
> > > > xuser_lists           NONE
> > > > subordinate_list      NONE
> > > > complex_values        NONE
> > > > projects              NONE
> > > > xprojects             NONE
> > > > calendar              NONE
> > > > initial_state         default
> > > > s_rt                  INFINITY
> > > > h_rt                  INFINITY
> > > > s_cpu                 INFINITY
> > > > h_cpu                 INFINITY
> > > > s_fsize               INFINITY
> > > > h_fsize               INFINITY
> > > > s_data                INFINITY
> > > > h_data                INFINITY
> > > > s_stack               INFINITY
> > > > h_stack               INFINITY
> > > > s_core                INFINITY
> > > > h_core                INFINITY
> > > > s_rss                 INFINITY
> > > > h_rss                 INFINITY
> > > > s_vmem                INFINITY
> > > > h_vmem                INFINITY
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Joseph David Borġ
> > > > josephb.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 17 January 2014 15:00, Reuti <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Can you please post the output of `qconf -sq <qname>` for the queue
> in question and the output of `qstat -j <job_id>` for such a job.
> > > >
> > > > -- Reuti
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am 16.01.2014 um 23:45 schrieb Joe Borġ:
> > > >
> > > > > Only in qsub
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Joseph David Borġ
> > > > > josephb.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 16 January 2014 16:59, Reuti <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > Am 16.01.2014 um 17:17 schrieb Joe Borġ:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I checked with qstat -j and the value displayed (in seconds)
> were correct.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With qacct, I get
> > > > > >
> > > > > > failed       100 : assumedly after job
> > > > > > exit_status  137
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Seeing as they were all killed at the exact same run time, I
> can't see what else could have done it.
> > > > >
> > > > > As mentioned, was there something in the messages file like:
> > > > >
> > > > > 01/16/2014 17:54:46|  main|pc15370|W|job 10561.1 exceeded hard
> wallclock time - initiate terminate method
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the limit in the `qsub` command or in the queue definition?
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Reuti
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Joseph David Borġ
> > > > > > josephb.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 15 January 2014 20:30, Reuti <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am 15.01.2014 um 18:55 schrieb Joe Borġ:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have it working, except even if I put jobs run time as 24
> hours, they all get killed after 6hours 40mins.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 6h 40m = 360m + 40m = 400m = 24000s - did you forget by accident
> the colons when you defined the limit?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Looking at qstat -j shows the correct number of seconds
> against hard_resource_list h_rt.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Was it really killed by SGE: is there any hint in the messages
> file of the node, i.e. something like /var/spool/sge/node01/messages about
> the reason for the kill ("loglevel log_info" in the `qconf -mconf`)?.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Reuti
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Joseph David Borġ
> > > > > > > josephb.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 15 January 2014 10:24, Reuti <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am 15.01.2014 um 11:16 schrieb Joe Borġ:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Using h_rt kills the job after the allotted time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  Can't this be disabled?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is no feature in SGE to extend the granted runtime of a
> job (I heard such a thing is available in Torque).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  We only want to use it as a rough guide.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you want to do it only once in a time for a particular job:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In this case you can just kill (or softstop) the `sgeexecd` on
> the node. You will lose control of the jobs on the node and the node (from
> SGE's view - `qhost` shows "-" for the node's load). So you have to check
> from time to time whether the job in question finished already, and then
> restart the `sgeexecd`. Also no new jobs will be scheduled to the node.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Only at point of restarting the `sgeexecd` it will discover
> that the job finished (and send an email if applicable). Other (still)
> running jobs will gain supervision of their runtime again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -- Reuti
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > Joseph David Borġ
> > > > > > > > josephb.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 13 January 2014 17:43, Reuti <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Am 13.01.2014 um 18:33 schrieb Joe Borġ:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks.  Can you please tell me what I'm doing wrong?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > qsub -q test.q -R y -l h_rt=60 -pe test.pe 1 small.bash
> > > > > > > > > qsub -q test.q -R y -l h_rt=120 -pe test.pe 2 big.bash
> > > > > > > > > qsub -q test.q -R y -l h_rt=60 -pe test.pe 1 small.bash
> > > > > > > > > qsub -q test.q -R y -l h_rt=60 -pe test.pe 1 small.bash
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Only the parallel job needs "-R y".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > job-ID  prior   name       user         state submit/start
> at     queue                          slots ja-task-ID
> > > > > > > > >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >  156757 0.50000 small.bash joe.borg     qw    01/13/2014
> 16:45:18                                    1
> > > > > > > > >  156761 0.50000 big.bash   joe.borg     qw    01/13/2014
> 16:55:31                                    2
> > > > > > > > >  156762 0.50000 small.bash joe.borg     qw    01/13/2014
> 16:55:33                                    1
> > > > > > > > >  156763 0.50000 small.bash joe.borg     qw    01/13/2014
> 16:55:34                                    1
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ...But when I release...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > max_reservation is set?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But the reservation feature must also be seen in a running
> cluster. If all four jobs are on hold and released at once, I wouldn't be
> surprised if it's not strictly FIFO.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > job-ID  prior   name       user         state submit/start
> at     queue                          slots ja-task-ID
> > > > > > > > >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >  156757 0.50000 small.bash joe.borg     r     01/13/2014
> 16:56:06 test.q@test                  1
> > > > > > > > >  156762 0.50000 small.bash joe.borg     r     01/13/2014
> 16:56:06 test.q@test                  1
> > > > > > > > >  156761 0.50000 big.bash   joe.borg     qw    01/13/2014
> 16:55:31                                   2
> > > > > > > > >  156763 0.50000 small.bash joe.borg     qw    01/13/2014
> 16:55:34                                  1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As job 156762 has the same runtime as 156757, backfilling
> will occur to use the otherwise idling core. Whether job 156762 is started
> or not, the parallel one 156761 will start at the same time. Only 156763
> shouldn't start.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -- Reuti
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > Joseph David Borġ
> > > > > > > > > josephb.org
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 13 January 2014 17:26, Reuti <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Am 13.01.2014 um 17:24 schrieb Joe Borġ:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Reuti,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I am using a PE, so that's fine.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I've not set either of the other 3.  Will the job be
> killed if default_duration is exceeded?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No. It can be set to any value you like (like a few
> weeks), but it shouldn't be set to "INFINITY" as SGE judges infinity being
> smaller than infinity and so backfilling will always occur.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -- Reuti
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > Joseph David Borġ
> > > > > > > > > > josephb.org
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 13 January 2014 16:16, Reuti <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Am 13.01.2014 um 16:58 schrieb Joe Borġ:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to set up an SGE queue and am having a
> problem getting the jobs to start in the right order.  Here is my example -
> test.q with 2 possible slots and the following jobs queued:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > job-ID  prior   name       user         state
> submit/start at     queue                          slots ja-task-ID
> > > > > > > > > > >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >  1           0.50000 small.bash joe.borg     qw
>  01/13/2014 15:43:16                                    1
> > > > > > > > > > >  2           0.50000 big.bash   joe.borg     qw
>  01/13/2014 15:43:24                                    2
> > > > > > > > > > >  3           0.50000 small.bash joe.borg     qw
>  01/13/2014 15:43:27                                    1
> > > > > > > > > > >  4           0.50000 small.bash joe.borg     qw
>  01/13/2014 15:43:28                                    1
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I want the jobs to run in that order, but (obviously),
> when I enable the queue, the small jobs fill the available slots and the
> big job has to wait for them to complete.  I'd like it setup so that only
> job 1 runs; finishes, then 2 (with both slots), then the final 2 jobs, 3 &
> 4, together.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I've looked at -R y on submission, but doesn't seem to
> work.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > For the reservation to work (and it's only necessary to
> request it for the parallel job) it's necessary to have suitable "h_rt"
> requests for all jobs.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - Do you request any "h_rt" for all jobs?
> > > > > > > > > > - Do you have a "default_duration" set to a proper value
> in the schedule configuration otherwise?
> > > > > > > > > > - Is "max_reservation" set to a value like 16?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -- Reuti
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > Joseph David Borġ
> > > > > > > > > > > josephb.org
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