Ah thanks for the info :) Owen Rubel 415-971-0976 oru...@gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Greg Trasuk <tras...@stratuscom.com> wrote: > > The code is licensed under the Apache Software License, which is > permissive so anyone could fork it, and of course the community is free to > move anytime it wants, but the trademarks will have been transferred to > Apache as part of the incubation process. They have to be, otherwise, the > Apache Software Foundation would be unable to defend the trademarks on > behalf of the community. > > That shouldn’t scare you! The point of the foundation is to have a > corporate entity whose whole reason for existence is to support and defend > open source projects, and whose mission is indisputably charitable. There > is no chance that Apache is going to turn around and try to monetize the > project (like Oracle attempted to do with Hudson, for instance). Apache’s > governance is open and public. Groovy’s future development is in the hands > of the new PMC, and shouldn’t be dominated by any one corporate interest > (although corporate interests are more than welcome to contribute to the > community and share in the products of it). > > The future of the Groovy name is far safer being owned by Apache than by > anyone else. > > Cheers, > > Greg Trasuk > > > On Nov 2, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Owen Rubel <oru...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Whoa. Apache has ownership? I thought it was just part of the foundation > and could leave anytime it wanted. > > > > Owen Rubel > > 415-971-0976 > > oru...@gmail.com > > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Russel Winder <rus...@winder.org.uk> > wrote: > > On Sun, 2015-11-01 at 10:55 -0800, Owen Rubel wrote: > > > Do we have to say that? I don't recall ever saying Spring Groovy, > > > Pivotal > > > Groovy or VMWare Groovy ;) > > > > I think the point here is that Spring, VMWare, and Pivotal only ever > > supported the project, they didn't own the product. With the move of > > the project to the Apache Foundation, it owns the product, lock, stock, > > and barrel. If it says (and I believe it does) that name is Apache > > Groovy, then it is. > > > > > I have referenced it by saying 'it's DAMN Groovy' though :) > > > > I'd rather not be damned for using Groovy, Apache or otherwise. ;-) > > > > -- > > Russel. > > > ============================================================================= > > Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: > sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net > > 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: rus...@winder.org.uk > > London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder > > > > > >