Hi, Reference:
> From: William A Rowe Jr <[email protected]>
> Reply-to: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 11:19:58 -0600
Top posting is bad !
Also best reconfig your mailer:
- Double posting plain text & HTML is a waste of space & bandwidth
- quoted-printable can be harder to edit replies, & usually redundant.
William A Rowe Jr wrote:
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> Precisely. We are likely to be switching mailing list mgmt platforms very
> soon,
Whichever server software is retained, or switched to, it should
be configured to do a better job of giving unsubscribe clues to than:
Header: List-unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]>
Footer: Nothing !!
Most inadequate ! My default majordomo lists were equally inadequate,
till I realised sufficient for us computer literates is not sufficient
for the incompetent public.
Tobias pointed out a replacement info@ recipient may be incompetent.
Both http + mailto URLs in both header & footer would help,
esp. if target http:// pages had automatic translation links.
It may not be the fault of ezlm or whatever, just as it was not the
fault of majordomo when I first configured a default majordomo
server; All my lists since got better headers And footers to rescue
clueless people who can't even create clean non html simple ascii
unbroken unsubscribe command lines.
> with luck we can preserve the subscribed address in such a way that
> unsubscribing users is less of a hassle. Right now the embedded
> list-unsubscribe fails to suggest the specific email address that needs to
> be unlinked.
Another problem I've seen too, when would be unsubscribers are
receiving redirected, too cluless to know how to insepct headers,
& there's no URL on this list pointing to a help page.
> Third party subscriptions, unintentional or harassing the individual or the
> list, will happen. Let's assume the best intentions of users stuck in a
> list, please.
>From long experience I assume most who yell "unsub me" are too lazy
to learn, even after one adds extra help URLS in footer & header.
But this list doesn't provide enough clues to those who would learn
to help themselves.
Samples of headers & footers from lists I configured are live on eg
list name zz-test via [email protected] http://berklix.org/help/
> On Jan 11, 2016 08:00, "Tobias Adolph" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Am 11.01.2016 um 14:07 schrieb Yehuda Katz:
> >
> > It's unfortunate that people can't figure out how to unsubscribe from a
> > mailing list that they subscribed to in the first place.
> >
> >
> > Maybe the person yelling isn't the same who subscribed to the list...
> > [email protected] sounds not like an address that is dedicated to one
> > person only. Maybe an employee subscribed a long time ago and now the
> > person currently responsible for the inbox is just unable to cope with all
> > this - in his or her eyes - weird tech stuff.
> >
> > Therefore my proposal to manually remove/block the address. But it seems
> > that this has happened.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Tobias
> >
>
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> <p dir=3D"ltr">Precisely.=C2=A0 We are likely to be switching mailing list =
> mgmt platforms very soon, with luck we can preserve the subscribed address =
> in such a way that unsubscribing users is less of a hassle.=C2=A0 Right now=
> the embedded list-unsubscribe fails to suggest the specific email address =
> that needs to be unlinked.</p>
> <p dir=3D"ltr">Third party subscriptions, unintentional or harassing the in=
> dividual or the list, will happen.=C2=A0 Let's assume the best intentio=
> ns of users stuck in a list, please.</p>
> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jan 11, 2016 08:00, "Tobias Adolph"=
> <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>> w=
> rote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
> rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> =20
> =20
> =20
> <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
> Hi,<br>
> <br>
> <div>Am 11.01.2016 um 14:07 schrieb Yehuda
> Katz:<br>
> </div>
> <blockquote type=3D"cite">
> =20
> <p dir=3D"ltr">It's unfortunate that people can't figure out =
> how to
> unsubscribe from a mailing list that they subscribed to in the
> first place.</p>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> Maybe the person yelling isn't the same who subscribed to the
> list... <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"; target=3D"_blank">info@=
> idealgourmet.es</a> sounds not like an address that is
> dedicated to one person only. Maybe an employee subscribed a long
> time ago and now the person currently responsible for the inbox is
> just unable to cope with all this - in his or her eyes - weird tech
> stuff.<br>
> <br>
> Therefore my proposal to manually remove/block the address. But it
> seems that this has happened.<br>
> <br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Tobias<br>
> </div>
>
> </blockquote></div>
>
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Cheers,
Julian
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Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix Sys. Eng. Consultant Munich http://berklix.com
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