Mauro Tortonesi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Jeroen Massar wrote:
> 
> > Peter Bieringer wrote:
> >
> > > sorry for requesting help here, but hopefully there are some
> > > people on the list who can check this world-wide (and perhaps
> > > the problem and a solution)
> > >
> > > Me and some others to here in Germany have much troubles 
> > > connecting to www.deepspace6.net with 6to4 address as source:

<SNIP>

> > Check hop 3 which effectively says it goes over viagenie...
> >
> > Let's inquiry the lookingglass (http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/lg/)
> > and indeed most paths go over the US (viagenie and esnet)
> 
> this really seems to be a problem in the cnit routing config. 
> gianluca, perhaps you can check this problem?
> 
> 
> > > Prod :  2001:760:204:10:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4
> >
> > That doesn't even trace..

<SNIP>

> are you sure? i can trace your host from ds6:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mauro]$ /usr/sbin/traceroute6 -s
> 2001:760:204:10:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4 
> 3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f
> traceroute to 3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f
> (3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f) from
> 2001:760:204:10:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets
>  1  2001:760:204:10:202:16ff:febc:1fc1
(2001:760:204:10:202:16ff:febc:1fc1)  1.366 ms *  0.791 ms
>  2  3ffe:830f::a (3ffe:830f::a)  76.262 ms *  67.166 ms
>  3  3ffe:8100:102::1:6 (3ffe:8100:102::1:6)  175.268 ms 179.469 ms
187.643 ms
>  4  3ffe:8120::19:2 (3ffe:8120::19:2)  208.773 ms  232.596 ms 202.754 ms
>  5  ipng.nl (2001:6e0::250:4ff:fe4a:7708)  190.97 ms  181.706 ms  182.735
ms
>  6  3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f 
> (3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f)  219.356 ms  228.461 ms  215.707
ms

You have to realize that the internet is a dynamic thing.
And my previous message was some days ago. The routing is thus
also a lot different now. Hop 4 above matches hop 2 below.
Hop 5 above matches hop 1 below, hop 6 is my endpoint.
So far so good. But then there is renater in between...

traceroute to 2001:760:204:10:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4
(2001:760:204:10:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4) from
3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets
 1  gw-20.ams-02.nl.sixxs.net (3ffe:8114:1000::26)  19.703 ms  19.312 ms
19.369 ms
 2  Amsterdam.core.ipv6.intouch.net (2001:6e0::2)  19 ms  19.669 ms  19.917
ms
 3  3ffe:8120::19:1 (3ffe:8120::19:1)  49.353 ms  55.394 ms  49.947 ms
 4  renater.gtpv6.renater.fr (2001:660:1102:4003::1)  311.005 ms  286.745 ms
286.65 ms
 5  gsr-nio.gsr-nio_gtpv6.projets.renater.fr (2001:660:3007:16:1::)  415.911
ms  287.458 ms  287.868 ms
 6  gsr-6net.gsr-nio_gsr-6net.projets.renater.fr (2001:660:3007:12:2::)
286.993 ms  287.094 ms  289.085 ms
 7  * * *
 8  * * *
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  2001:798:20:200::2 (2001:798:20:200::2)  93.296 ms  93.137 ms  93.764 ms
13  rtg-6net.mi.garr.net (2001:760:ffff:100::5)  93.34 ms  93.508 ms *
14  bo-mi-g.garr.net (2001:760:ffff:ffff::12)  97.957 ms  97.034 ms  96.999
ms
15  6net-rtg.bo.garr.net (2001:760:ffff:200::6)  97.926 ms  98.771 ms
97.261 ms
16  unife-bo.6net.garr.net (2001:760:fff:4::15)  100.431 ms  101.128 ms
99.461 ms
17  gw-ing-fe.ipv6.cnit.it (3ffe:8300::9)  214.396 ms  220.364 ms *
18  gw-fe-na.ipv6.cnit.it (3ffe:8300::4)  215.619 ms *  217.453 ms
19  2001:760:204:10:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4 (2001:760:204:10:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4)
216.207 ms  216.52 ms  213.339 ms

Completely different and note to CERN, then to renater in france and then to
italy.
Apparently the CERN box is quite lagged:
 8  r3gen.vianw.net (213.2.254.10)  31.608 ms  32.268 ms  31.430 ms
 9  cern-atm7.cern.ch (192.65.185.7)  188.931 ms *  188.776 ms

This should be fixed also imho, will notice the admin.

You are also announcing both your /32 and your /35:
2001:760::/32 > 2001:778:11:4::     2847 20965 137    LITNET GEANT GARR
2001:760::/35 > 3ffe:8120::19:1     513 559 137       CERN SWITCH GARR

The best path taken here is the /35 (3rd hop :)
And apparent from your traceroute these routes are very asynch.
I hope your stack is sending out it's packets on the correct interface.
There are good ISP's who drop packets from mismatching origins.
I wonder why the /35 all have a completely different path from the /32.

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mauro]$ /usr/sbin/traceroute6 -s 
> 3ffe:8300:0:1:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4 3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f
> traceroute to 3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f 
> (3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f) from
> 3ffe:8300:0:1:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets
>  1  3ffe:8300:0:1:202:16ff:febc:1fc1 
> (3ffe:8300:0:1:202:16ff:febc:1fc1)  0.948 ms *  1.07 ms
>  2  3ffe:8300::5 (3ffe:8300::5)  24.308 ms *  25.03 ms
>  3  3ffe:8100:102::1:6 (3ffe:8100:102::1:6)  189.886 ms  
> 212.803 ms  202.296 ms
>  4  3ffe:b00:c18::61 (3ffe:b00:c18::61)  290.605 ms  300.884 
> ms  290.953 ms
>  5  ipng.nl (2001:6e0::250:4ff:fe4a:7708)  297.034 ms  
> 295.936 ms  292.553 ms
>  6  3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f 
> (3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f)  310.646 ms  316.277 
> ms  342.222 ms

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ traceroute6 3ffe:8300:0:1:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4
traceroute to 3ffe:8300:0:1:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4
(3ffe:8300:0:1:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4) from
3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets
 1  gw-20.ams-02.nl.sixxs.net (3ffe:8114:1000::26)  20.145 ms  18.985 ms
18.881 ms
 2  Amsterdam.core.ipv6.intouch.net (2001:6e0::2)  19.223 ms  19.006 ms
18.984 ms
 3  gw-viagenie-cnit.ipv6.cnit.it (3ffe:830f::3)  123.431 ms  123.124 ms
122.881 ms
 4  gw-cnit-viagenie.ipv6.cnit.it (3ffe:830f::2)  286.447 ms *  288.432 ms
 5  gw-fe-na.ipv6.cnit.it (3ffe:8300::4)  310.649 ms *  310.805 ms
 6  3ffe:8300:0:1:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4 (3ffe:8300:0:1:10:a7ff:fe16:27f4)
314.122 ms  311.215 ms  310.889 ms

Only One AS path here, so no problems:
3ffe:8300::/28 > 3ffe:b00:c18::60     10566 20745

But it depends on which prefix is chosen... RIR address doesn't work at all.
Either way, 6bone is going over the US too..
Quick look using GRH and only showing Best shows that everybody takes that
path...

> the production address should be reachable from any network which is
> connected to the 6net. perhaps there is a routing problem between
> your host/net and the 6net.

You mean between 6net and the rest of the world as 6net has a stupid
"we don't accept ASpaths longer than 3 hops" clause?

> > > Problem exists since two weeks or so.
> > >
> > > Perhaps someone could check this from different 6to4
> > > addresses and/or look into routing tables of such routers.
> > >
> > > See traceroutes below for more.
> >
> > I rather think it is a problem at cnit then in the 6to4 setup.
> > They really should be checking their routing tables.
> > And clean them up a lot.
> 
> well, we must be able to track down the problem before we can 
> fix it ;-)
> are we really sure that this is a problem with the cnit BGP RT?

Trace to any 6to4 address out there, preferebly Pieter's as he
is seeing that problem. Traceroute should show where it goes wrong.
Another way to check it is to dump your ASpath's.
Can't look into that as it's not in GRH...

Greets,
 Jeroen




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