I think I got it fixed. There were two problems
1. If I used a cache manager, then it seems shiro will not reload the user 
roles and permissions after the first load. So any changes will require a 
restart of the app. My solution is not to use cache. How does this affect 
performance when we have a couple of hundred users?
2. I got the permission 


> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:26 AM, David Tildesley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I know but that should be only when I use that permission.
> 
> 
> Assumptions you can't afford - make those suggested corrections (all of them) 
> and try again.
> 
> >I also define entities for user, permission and role in my isis app.
> >These entities map to the tables used by shiro.
> >Could there be conflict between shiro using the tables via jdbc and
> >Isis using the entities?
> 
> 
> Probably not - unless you are getting errors that indicate an issue. You 
> could temporarily remove the ISIS entities to know for sure.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, 12 November 2013 6:53 PM, james agada <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I also define entities for user, permission and role in my isis app.
> These entities map to the tables used by shiro.
> Could there be conflict between shiro using the tables via jdbc and
> Isis using the entities?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> > On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:59 AM, David Tildesley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Firstly, I don't think this value is valid:
> >
> > "*:Inventory:*:r,w"
> >
> > It needs to be:
> > "*:Inventory:*:*"
> >
> >
> > I don't what Inventory does but generally you only need to specify the 
> > implementation class in the permission mapping.
> >
> > David.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday, 11 November 2013 11:59 PM, james agada <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > The other tables.
> > 1. Table - User
> >
> > USER_ID,DESCRIPTION,NAME,OWNEDBY,PARTY_PARTY_ID_OID,PASSWORD,VERSION
> > 1,"James Agada",james,sven,2,ixzdore,4
> > 2,"Anthonia Eze",Anthonia,sven,3,ANTHONIA,2
> > 3,"sven from isis",sven,sven,2,pass,2
> > 4,"chimaje agada new",chimaje,james,1,chimaje,3
> >
> > 2. Table -Userroles
> >
> > USERID,ROLEID,IDX
> > 1,1,0
> > 2,2,0
> > 3,3,0
> > 4,3,0
> >
> > 3. Table - Role
> > ROLE_ID,DESCRIPTION,NAME,OWNEDBY,VERSION
> > 1,"Site Administrator",SITEADMIN,sven,10
> > 2,"Normal Site User",SITEUSER,sven,3
> > 3,"Root Admin Role",admin_role,sven,2
> >
> >
> > 4. Table - RolePermissions
> > ROLEID,PERMISSIONID,IDX
> > 1,5,0
> > 2,2,0
> > 2,4,1
> > 3,3,0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:17 AM, David Tildesley <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >> I suggest you remove the [users] and [roles] sections from the ini file as
> >> they are not needed for your purpose and from memory there is some
> >> side-effect from leaving them in place when not using the iniRealm. It
> >> would be useful to see the other tables as well.
> >>
> >> David.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Monday, 11 November 2013 3:16 AM, james agada <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have struggled with this for some time and i still cannot get the
> >> behaviour right. Now, it is only a permission of * that works. Anyother
> >> permission and the user cannot see the menu or dashboard. I also have to
> >> shut down and restart before any permission changes or user definitions
> >> take effect.
> >>
> >> Here is the shiro.ini
> >>
> >> #
> >>
> >> # Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
> >>
> >> # or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
> >>
> >> # distributed with this work for additional information
> >>
> >> # regarding copyright ownership.  The ASF licenses this file
> >>
> >> # to you under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the
> >>
> >> # "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance
> >>
> >> # with the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
> >>
> >> #
> >>
> >> #    http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
> >>
> >> #
> >>
> >> # Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing,
> >>
> >> # software distributed under the License is distributed on an
> >>
> >> # "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY
> >>
> >> # KIND, either express or implied.  See the License for the
> >>
> >> # specific language governing permissions and limitations
> >>
> >> # under the License.
> >>
> >> #
> >>
> >>
> >> [main]
> >>
> >> ps = org.apache.shiro.authc.credential.DefaultPasswordService
> >>
> >> pm = org.apache.shiro.authc.credential.PasswordMatcher
> >>
> >> pm.passwordService = $ps
> >>
> >>
> >> aa = org.apache.shiro.authc.credential.AllowAllCredentialsMatcher
> >>
> >> sm = org.apache.shiro.authc.credential.SimpleCredentialsMatcher
> >>
> >>
> >> ds = com.jolbox.bonecp.BoneCPDataSource
> >>
> >> ds.driverClass = com.mysql.jdbc.Driver
> >>
> >> ds.jdbcUrl = jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/myticket
> >>
> >> ds.username = root
> >>
> >> #ds.password =  .
> >>
> >> jdbcRealm.dataSource = $ds
> >>
> >>
> >> jdbcRealm = org.apache.shiro.realm.jdbc.JdbcRealm
> >>
> >> jdbcRealm.permissionsLookupEnabled = true
> >>
> >> jdbcRealm.credentialsMatcher = $sm
> >>
> >> builtInCacheManager = org.apache.shiro.cache.MemoryConstrainedCacheManager
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> jdbcRealm.dataSource = $ds
> >>
> >>
> >> jdbcRealm.authenticationQuery = SELECT password FROM user WHERE name = ?
> >>
> >> jdbcRealm.userRolesQuery = SELECT role.name AS role_name FROM
> >> user,userroles,
> >> role WHERE  user.user_id = userroles.userid AND userroles.roleid =
> >> role.role_id AND user.name = ?
> >>
> >> jdbcRealm.permissionsQuery = SELECT permission.permission AS roleper FROM
> >> role, permission, rolepermissions WHERE rolepermissions.roleid=role.role_id
> >> AND rolepermissions.permissionid = permission.permission_id AND role.name=
> >> ?
> >>
> >> securityManager.realms = $jdbcRealm
> >>
> >> securityManager.cacheManager = $builtInCacheManager
> >>
> >> # to use .ini file
> >>
> >> #securityManager.realms = $iniRealm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> #
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> # Users and their assigned roles
> >>
> >> #
> >>
> >> # Each line conforms to the format defined in the
> >>
> >> # org.apache.shiro.realm.text.TextConfigurationRealm#setUserDefinitions
> >> JavaDoc
> >>
> >> #
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> [users]
> >>
> >> # user = password, role1, role2, role3, ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> sven = pass, admin_role
> >>
> >> dick = pass, user_role, self-install_role
> >>
> >> bob  = pass, user_role, self-install_role
> >>
> >> joe  = pass, user_role, self-install_role
> >>
> >> guest = guest, user_role
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> #
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> # Roles with assigned permissions
> >>
> >> #
> >>
> >> # Each line conforms to the format defined in the
> >>
> >> # org.apache.shiro.realm.text.TextConfigurationRealm#setRoleDefinitions
> >> JavaDoc
> >>
> >> #
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> [roles]
> >>
> >> # role = perm1, perm2, perm3, ...
> >>
> >> # perm in format: packageName:className:memberName:r,w
> >>
> >>
> >> user_role =   *:ToDoItemsJdo:*:*,\
> >>
> >>                *:ToDoItem:*:*
> >>
> >> self-install_role = *:ToDoItemsFixturesService:install:*
> >>
> >> admin_role = *
> >>
> >>
> >> ***
> >> Here is the permission table
> >> PERMISSION_ID,DESCRIPTION,NAME,OWNEDBY,PERMISSION,VERSION
> >> 1,"Create Users",CreateUser,sven,*:ToDoItemsFixturesService:install:*,7
> >> 2,"View Existing Users",ViewUsers,sven,*:User:*:r,2
> >> 3,"Root access",ROOT,sven,*,1
> >> 4,"Setup inventory",SetupInventory,sven,"*:Inventory:*:r,w",1
> >> 5,todo,TODO,sven,*:Parties:*:*,3
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:27 AM, David Tildesley <[email protected]
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Copy us the whole shiro.ini file (blank out any sensitive connection
> >> info).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> David.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>   From: james agada <[email protected]>
> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Friday, 25 October 2013 9:23 AM
> >>> Subject: Shiro with JdbcRealm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have been able to setup shire to use a jdbcrealm and authenticate
> >> against
> >>> the database. However, it does not appear to use the permissions. I want
> >> to
> >>> set a role to have permissions only to run the ToDoItems fixture service
> >>> and I give the permission as so  *:ToDoItemsFixturesService:install:*.
> >> But
> >>> the user with the role still gets access to everything. Is there
> >> something
> >>> I am doing wrong?

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