I would think it makes sense to move this to another list yes since
most of the code discussion is around GAE runtime issues.



On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Erik Antelman <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is very interesting and I for one would like to help. Especially if
> eventually targeting accumulo. Is this discussion some that can be attached
> to a new or existing JIRA? Maybe a forum in github?
> On May 26, 2012 10:23 AM, "Marco Neumann" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Patrick, ok had look at the code again and see have quite some
>> customization of indexes and caches. I will take this thread offline
>> here and get in touch with you directly to discuss further. sorry
>> mixed up Patrick and Paolo earlier.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Marco Neumann <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > also the free GAE database Jena back-end is limited to a max of 1 GB of
>> data :(
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Marco Neumann <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> Patrick,  is that what you have found in the Jena documentation? I will
>> take a  look at my code over the weekend again .... The rows in the GAE
>> datastore  are referenced by keys for which we use URI, the GAE datastore
>> has  method for creating these keys called KeyFactory, all predicates and
>> objects on this URI are stored in the same row. Here we encountered the
>> problem that Google limits BigTable to 1000 columns per row. I remember
>> that Taylor had a little sanfu with source code so it's a good time to
>> review the project in any event and update to the latest  version of Apache
>> Jena.
>> >  Marco
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Patrick Thompson <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> Thanks Marco,
>> >>>  I am looking to find the integration points to customize to enable my
>> >>> model to persist to accumulo. Here is my impression of what I think
>> needs
>> >>> to be done. Please correct as necessary
>> >>>
>> >>> 1)  provide a custom implementation of ModelMaker which will return my
>> >>> CustomAccumuloModel::Model (:: --> is of type)
>> >>> 2) Provide implementation of CustomAccumuloModel::Model that will also
>> >>> implement ModelCon and possibly ModelGraphInterface.
>> >>>
>> >>> What I do understand is where to hook in my Accumulo DAO that actually
>> >>> persists the model to Accumulo. The corresponding RDB code is as so:
>> >>> conn = new DBConnection( DB_URL, DB_USER, DB_PASSWD, DB );
>> >>>            ModelMaker maker = ModelFactory.createModelRDBMaker(conn) ;
>> >>>            Model model = maker.createDefaultModel();
>> >>> ...
>> >>>            model.commit()
>> >>>
>> >>> Guessing I will have to provide a custom AccumuloConnection class that
>> will
>> >>> be referenced by the model so that model.commit() can push the data to
>> the
>> >>> store ??
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> P.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Marco Neumann <
>> [email protected]>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Patrick ,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> we basically have just extended the model interface in jena to bind
>> >>>> the BigTable column store to the API.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> though the benefits of the Google App engine are obvious, free hosting
>> >>>> and database scaling as web service etc, we have unfortunately
>> >>>> observed significant performance issues and some limitations with the
>> >>>> BIgTable database implementation for our needs. This might change with
>> >>>> future release of Google App Engine framework. But for now I have
>> >>>> switched my focus back to TDB which provides sufficient performance
>> >>>> for some of our production systems.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> but if  you want to go ahead with your own extension Andy had just
>> >>>> posted a link to documentation. Andy can you please re-post the link
>> >>>> again here?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Marco
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Patrick Thompson
>> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> > That is awesome.
>> >>>> ...
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On May 23, 2012 5:17 PM, "Marco Neumann" <[email protected]>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> do you want to make this a public or a commercial and private
>> project?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Marco Neumann <
>> [email protected]
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> > we did a Jena implementation with a Google BigTable back-end
>> back in
>> >>>> >> > 2010. It's still running here
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > http://geosparql.org/
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > I am going to publish the documentation hopefully soon, will
>> keep you
>> >>>> >> > posted.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Patrick Thompson
>> >>>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >> Hello,
>> >>>> >> >>  I am looking to store the jena model to a cloud based
>> >>>> >> >> datastore(accumulo). I have sifted through the documentation but
>> >>>> >> >> haven't
>> >>>> >> >> yet found information that would help me do that. So
>> specifically I
>> >>>> was
>> >>>> >> >> looking at this architecture picture:
>> >>>> >> >> http://jena.apache.org/about_jena/architecture.html  and am
>> looking
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> >> >> implement the '?' box.
>> >>>> >> >>  At least that is what I am hoping I need to do.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Instead of going to mysql I want to write to a big table of
>> sorts.
>> >>>> Any
>> >>>> >> >> pointers will be greatly helpful. Thanks.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> p.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
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