Joan, Graphity also allows defining XHTML templates, so the layout and functionallity is fully customizable. You can include all the libraries you want, but the platform doesn't deal with client-side much -- linkeddata.dk is just one of the possible layouts.
Do you mean http://www.zkoss.org? If I get the concept right, you will end up doing the same thing -- writing templates, only in ZK custom template language instead of standard XSLT, and probably some provider Java code? Martynas On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Joan Iglesias <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Martynas > > I think it's not exactly what I had in mind. On your site I could see a group > of Semantic web sites accessible from your portal, and this portal generates > a basic user interface, automatically I suppose. I suppose it's very easy to > add new sites or repositories, and your platform generates a basic > view-controller for the site, or allows the user to define their own > view-controller. Correct me if I'm wrong, please. > > My idea is that my framework allows the addition of other plug-ins to manage > a single site, the complexities of a single site or repository and help the > programmer or admin to manage the Jena capabilities and associated plug-ins > graphically. Of course it could be linked with other sites or repositories. > > I thought in having a very dynamic and ajax based VIEW, for example using the > ZK framework. > > Because around java there a lot of framework and utilities [the most I > think], the core technology has to be Java based. > > Thank you for your answer. > > Best regards > > Joan > > > >> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:26:18 +0200 >> Subject: Re: Planning for a new framework for Jena >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> >> Joan, >> >> could Graphity approach be similar to what you have in mind? >> http://www.w3.org/2011/09/LinkedData/ledp2011_submission_1.pdf >> >> You can see what kind of UI it can render on http://linkeddata.dk. >> >> Martynas >> graphity.org >> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Joan Iglesias <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hello Rob >> > >> > Commends inline also. >> > >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: Planning for a new framework for Jena >> >> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:01:30 +0000 >> >> >> >> Hi Joan >> >> >> >> Comments inline: >> >> >> >> >> >> On 6/25/12 9:30 AM, "Joan Iglesias" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Dear all >> >> > >> >> >I'm new at this list, but I would like to purpose the building of a new >> >> >framework for Jena. >> >> > >> >> >I'll be in charge of the design and programming of this new framework, >> >> >but new ideas or collaborations with other developers are welcome. >> >> > >> >> >The project is a java web platform for configuring, managing and queering >> >> >the Jena framework from any web browser. That framework will allow the >> >> >users to save time in the configuration time, initial contact and >> >> >database administration of Jena framework. It could be .war for any >> >> >application server with the appropriate configuration files. >> >> >> >> Please take a look at JENA-201 >> >> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-201) which contains a >> >> discussion on how to convert the existing Fuseki architecture into WAR >> >> form. If you are interested maybe you would like to work on contributing >> >> towards that effort? >> >> >> >> Also Fuseki already includes much of the configuration, management and >> >> querying capabilities you are talking about. Granted right now Fuseki >> >> can't easily be run in any Java application server because it runs off an >> >> embedded Jetty but if that issue was addressed this would become possible. >> >> And equally the built in UI could be a little less basic but none of us >> >> Jena developers claim to be graphic design or UX experts! >> > >> > I'm not an expert on Jena, I only read some tutorials about Jena and its >> > frameworks. Of course the development of such a framework needs much more >> > knowledge than I have. Because of this I suggested the project to the Jena >> > community, because I don't want to start a long learning period if the >> > framework is useless or not needed for the community or already exists >> > something similar. >> > >> > Like all technologies, the more user-friendly user interface, the most >> > success in the adoption of the technology. Some companies if they >> > appreciate a long learning period of a framework, the framework is >> > discarded. >> > >> > I could deduce from the tutorials of fuseki an so on, that most of the >> > configuration is done by file configuration. The idea of my project, it's >> > that you just download the war file, you deploy it, and all the >> > configuration and management is done using a very helpful and >> > user-friendly interface. Addition of modules, database configuration and >> > administration, and so on. >> > >> > I think, that any developer prefer a tool, self explanatory with small >> > time to learn how it works. >> > >> > Maybe such a framework could be developed using fuseki code or other Jena >> > frameworks as a base framework or starting framework. >> > >> > The platform I propose, it allows to manage plug-ins graphically, like >> > Eclipse, for example. And a plug-in could have it's own web interface to >> > configure or use it. I think that those functionality it's not possible by >> > now using fuseki. >> > >> > For example, is there any framework that allows to manage ontologies >> > graphically and integrated into Jena? Sometimes I think it's very useful >> > that a plug-in has a web interface, like the case I mentioned before, and >> > integrated into a well defined platform. >> > >> > What do you think about all this?? >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >I consider that it has to be designed in a modular way, and the addition >> >> >of new plug-ins have to be taken into acount from the very begginng. I >> >> >thought it could be like a kind of Eclipse, that it's a platform for >> >> >development with basic functionalities, but allows the additions of a lot >> >> >of plug-gins from the community or private companies. >> >> >> >> This is basically what the Jena platform is already unless I am >> >> misunderstanding your point? >> >> >> >> I don't know how familiar you are with Jena (I assume at least reasonably >> >> so given the scope of your proposal) but Jena already has many extension >> >> points that can be utilized and many people using Jena commercially >> >> already use these widely. Maybe you could elaborate on exactly what it is >> >> that you want to extend/do that you don't think Jena can do right now? >> >> You may find that the types of extensions you want are already possible in >> >> the existing framework and you are just not aware of it. >> >> >> >> For example within Fuseki you can already leverage the Jena assembly >> >> mechanism for loading and executing arbitrary code allowing you to add >> >> custom functionality to a standard Fuseki distro to some extent. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Some of the nowadays utilities for Jena could be migrated into a plug-in >> >> >for this platform. REST and SOAP services could be a plug-in for this >> >> >platform. >> >> >> >> Utilities such as? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >New ideas or suggestions are welcome. I think a framework like this will >> >> >help Jena to be more used, because the intention is that the new >> >> >framework has to be in most of the cases "self explanatory" and >> >> >intuitive, and with a lot of helping tools. >> >> >> >> While I do want to discourage you from contributing to the Jena ecosystem >> >> it would be interesting to here some more detail on what exactly you want >> >> to build. From reading your email I get the impression that maybe a lot >> >> of what you want may already be available and you're just looking to get >> >> it more solidly integrated into a user friendly web based UI? >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Rob Vesse >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Best regards, >> >> > >> >> >Joan >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >
