Thqt sounds like q

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 17/12/12 11:41, Olivier Rossel wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> The SPARQL spec says:
>> "Florence" is not the same RDF literal as "Florence"@fr
>
>
> and it's just repeating RDF.
>
> ...
>
>
>> Now I have to federate-query an italian dataset and the french dbPedia.
>>
>> As seen above, my french dbPedia contains this literal: "Florence"@fr
>> My italian dataset contains this literal: "Florence" (with no lang tag).
>>
>> Here is the federated query:
>> SELECT DISTINCT ?LocalityITA ?LocalityFR WHERE {
>>   SERVICE <http://91.121.14.47:6665/sparql/> {
>>      ?Address <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
>> <http://www.w3.org/2006/vcard/ns#Address> .
>>      ?Address <http://www.w3.org/2006/vcard/ns#locality> ?LocalityITA .
>>      ?LocalityITA <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#label> ?LabelITA .
>>   }
>>   BIND (strbefore(?LabelITA, "(") AS ?Label)
>>   SERVICE <http://fr.dbpedia.org/sparql>{
>>      ?LocalityFR <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#label> ?Label
>>   }
>> }
>
>
> Reformatted:
>
>
> SELECT DISTINCT  ?LocalityITA ?LocalityFR
> WHERE
>   { SERVICE <http://91.121.14.47:6665/sparql/>
>       { ?Address rdf:type vc:Address .
>         ?Address vc:locality ?LocalityITA .
>         ?LocalityITA rdfs:label ?LabelITA
>       }
>     BIND(strbefore(?LabelITA, "(") AS ?Label)
>     SERVICE <http://fr.dbpedia.org/sparql>
>       { ?LocalityFR rdfs:label ?Label }
>   }
>
>
> You can use str() to get just the lexical form:
>
>
>>
>> How can I tune the query so the literal matching works across lang tags?
>> Thanks for your help.
>
>
> You could canonicalise to the simple literal in each SERVICE
>
> SERVICE <....> {
>    ....
>    ?Address vc:locality ?l .
>     BIND(str(?l) AS ?locality)
> }
>
>>
>
> Except fr.dbpedia.org/Virtuoso does not support BIND.
>
> You can get the same effect with a subquery:
>
> SERVICE <....> {
>    SELECT (str(?l as ?locality)
>    { ...
>       ?Address vc:locality ?l .
>    }
> }
>
> Now you have ?locality without a language tag and can use it as the
> canonical term (if yoru app thinks that's safe enough).
>
>         Andy
>

Ok for the first SERVICE<..> block : str(...) binds a "raw string"
into ?locality.
Now the seconde SERVICE<...> block:
Is a strlang(..., "fr") required to match ?locality against the @fr strings ???
Like this:

SERVICE <myItalianData> {
    SELECT (str(?l) as ?locality)
    {
       ?Address vc:locality ?l .
    }
 }
SERVICE <fr.dbpedia.org> {
    SELECT (?LocalityFR)
    {
       ?LocalityFR rdfs:label strlang(?locality,"fr") .
    }
 }

Or is the ?locality variable bound in a way that says "i am a raw
string, compare me without taking lang-tag into account"?

As usual, thanks for your help, Andy.

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