Thanks to Andy and Joshua, I will see the references you have mentioned. I do not need to explain myself to people who think are the only ones who understand the research environment. I have been in this business for enough time. BO.
Bahador(reza)? OFOGHI, PhD Major: Information Technology ________________________________ From: davejrdn <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013 11:21 PM Subject: Re: scientific citation? Sorry, I did not mean to come across so poorly. I mainly wanted to point out that one does not always need to use a reference and one can simply refer to the web site. But I'll admit I have run across a number of people that feel that they just need to throw in some references to things they have never read, just to have some references. This article is probably good, I have not read it yet. But it is also 9 years old. It would be useful to have a web page on the Jena site that would provide links to any/all such articles that have been published. It would also be good to have some more articles written that are more recent, reflecting the current state of Jena. From: Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Re: scientific citation? On 14/08/13 13:49, Joshua TAYLOR wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:17 AM, David Jordan <[email protected]> wrote: >> If you have not read any "scientific research papers" that address things >> you have placed in your research paper, then you don't include a reference. >> There are papers on Jena out there, but just including them for the sake of >> having some is bogus and unethical. You just want the full bibliographic >> info, so it sounds like you don't intend to even read it. Surely you read >> the online Jena documentation, reference that. > > I interpreted this request as more of typical ettiquette, along the > lines of "I've been using the system that you built, and have > benefited from the research and work that you've done. How would you > prefer to be cited?" Much in the way that, were I to cite this email > thread, I'd ask, "Mr. Jordan, when I cite mailing list posts, do you > prefer D. Jordan or David Jordan, or perhaps something else?" This > can be especially important in computer-science related fields where > many conference proceedings articles are freely available, but the > better journal version is behind a paywall; it's nice to give the > authors a chance to say "Cite the journal verison, please! Here's an > offprint that you can look at!" > > At any rate, I don't know what citations the Jena developers prefer to > be used, but one might be: > > Jena: Jena: Implementing the Semantic Web Recommendations > http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2003/HPL-2003-146.pdf > (notice that this is a techreport, but the developers might know that > it was published in a conference or journal, and the appropriate > citation therefor) WWW2004: http://www2004.wwwconference.org/docs/2p74.pdf Andy > > > >> >> >> On Aug 13, 2013, at 11:44 PM, Bahador(reza)? OFOGHI wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I wonder if there is any scientific research paper/report published on jena >>> which can be referenced in a reserch paper I am writing up? If yes, can >>> anyone please send the full bibliographic info? >>> >>> BO >> > > >
