On 28/09/13 10:54, Arthur Vaïsse-Lesteven wrote:

Not really.

In the case of TDB only, FROM picks a graph out of the dataset.  Other
datasets are likely to attempt to read it from the web.

I thought that was the role of the SPARQL SERVICE to get data from different 
endpoint on the web.

I'll make some tests.

Thank you for your answer.

FROM/FROM NAMED "describes the dataset" to be queried.

That's how some engines can be taking the names from the local pool of graphs and others do a HTTP GET. The spec does not prescribe "describe" here (quite intentionally).

SERVICE <url> executes a remote sub-query in the middle of execution. The URL is a service endpoint, not a graph.

        Andy



Arthur VAÏSSE-LESTEVEN.



________________________________
  De : Andy Seaborne <[email protected]>
À : [email protected]
Envoyé le : Vendredi 27 septembre 2013 18h31
Objet : Re: Trubble with config.ttl that impact  queries' semantics


What's in config.ttl?

On 27/09/13 14:43, Arthur Vaïsse-Lesteven wrote:
Hi,

I just found something I don't understand.

Using the last Fuseki server ( 1.0.0 ) I push some triples with a SPARQL 
insert, for example :

PREFIX uso: <http://weblab.ow2.org/SWAG_users_ontology#>
PREFIX rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>
PREFIX xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#>

INSERT DATA {
     GRAPH <http://swag_data.com/users_graph> {
         <http://swag_data.com/User/portal> rdf:type uso:User.
         <http://swag_data.com/User/portal> uso:password 
"liferay_portal"^^xsd:String.
         <http://swag_data.com/User/portal> uso:name 
"[email protected]"^^xsd:String.
         <http://swag_data.com/User/portal> uso:hasAccessRestrictionLvl 
<http://cassidian/COPS/not_restricted>.
         <http://swag_data.com/User/portal> uso:memberOfGroup 
<http://swag_data.com/portal_user_group>.
         <http://swag_data.com/portal_user_group> uso:name "Portal"^^xsd:String.
     }.
}


My problem is that depending the way I start the server, I got different 
results from 2 queries that was supposed to be equals. The queries are :

prefix uso: <http://weblab.ow2.org/SWAG_users_ontology#>
PREFIX xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#>

SELECT ?p ?o ?n
FROM <http://swag_data.com/users_graph>
WHERE {
?user uso:name "[email protected]"^^xsd:String.
?user uso:password "liferay_portal"^^xsd:String.
?user ?p ?o.
OPTIONAL { ?o uso:name ?n }
}

and

prefix uso: <http://weblab.ow2.org/SWAG_users_ontology#>
PREFIX xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#>

SELECT ?p ?o ?n
WHERE {
graph <http://swag_data.com/users_graph> {
?user uso:name "[email protected]"^^xsd:String.
?user uso:password "liferay_portal"^^xsd:String.
?user ?p ?o.
OPTIONAL { ?o uso:name ?n }
}
}

If I correctly understand the SPARQL standards, this two queries are supposed 
to give the same result.

Not really.

In the case of TDB only, FROM picks a graph out of the dataset.  Other
datasets are likely to attempt to read it from the web.



And that what's append when I execute the update and the queries on the the dataset 
"test" against a
Fuseki started with the command : "fuseki-server --update --loc "../test" /test"

When I execute the two queries against the dataset ds of a Fuseki started by this command 
:"fuseki-server --config="./config.ttl"
The first one don't find any matching result and the second give me the result 
same expected, obtained by the two queries with the other server :

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| p                                                 | o                         
               | n                    |
=======================================================================================================================
| uso:memberOfGroup                                 | 
<http://swag_data.com/portal_user_group> | "Portal"^^xsd:String |
| uso:hasAccessRestrictionLvl                       | 
<http://cassidian/COPS/not_restricted>   |                      |
| uso:name                                          | 
"[email protected]"^^xsd:String |                      |
| uso:password                                      | 
"liferay_portal"^^xsd:String             |                      |
| <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> | uso:User                  
               |                      |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Is that due to the default union graph parameters ? Is that comportment fully 
standard compliant ? If yes, which point of the standard did I missed?
Because I thought that this 2 queries are semantically the same and I was 
expecting the same results in all contexts.

VAÏSSE-LESTEVEN Arthur


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