Jeremy,

Thanks.  Duration operations are much more 'interesting' than I expected, and I 
like your advice on ensuring apples-to-apples comparisons of durations.

Arthur

On Nov 19, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Jeremy J Carroll <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> The IMO correct way to do duration processing, that unfortunately has only 
> got through the XML bit of the standards process is to use either
> 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#dt-yearMonthDuration 
> <http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#dt-yearMonthDuration>
> 
> or
> 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#dt-dayTimeDuration 
> <http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#dt-dayTimeDuration>
> 
> but not both in the same expression. This avoids the ambiguities.
> 
> XPath also defines arithmetic between dates and durations in a useful fashion
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Arthur Keen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Dave, interesting that RDF 1.1 calls out duration but SPARQL 1.1 does 
>> not.  This could be related to SPARQL 1.1 being released before RDF 1.1
>> 
>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 3:20 AM, Dave Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 19/11/14 05:41, Arthur Keen wrote:
>>>> When comparing 28 days to 1 month and 365 days to 1 year in Fuseki 1.1.1
>>>> 
>>>> SELECT ("P28D"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#duration> 
>>>> ="P1M"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#duration> as ?same) {}
>>>> --------
>>>> | same |
>>>> ========
>>>> | true |
>>>> --------
>>>> SELECT ("P365D"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#duration> 
>>>> ="P1Y"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#duration> as ?same) {}
>>>> --------
>>>> | same |
>>>> ========
>>>> | true |
>>>> --------
>>>> Shouldn't this be indeterminate in both cases?
>>> 
>>> xsd:duration was not a supported datatype in RDF 1.0 and isn't included in 
>>> the SPARQL 1.1 specification [1] so I wouldn't rely on behaviour here.
>>> 
>>> SPARQL 1.1 does allow = to be extended to other datatypes but as far as I 
>>> can see it doesn't specify how indeterminate values should be handled.
>>> 
>>> I see that RDF 1.1 does list xsd:duration as a supported datatype (!) which 
>>> seems like a terrible idea, no idea why they did that.
>>> 
>>> I can't speak for whether there is any intention for ARQ to support 
>>> xsd:duration fully.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-query/#OperatorMapping
>> 
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