Hi Andy, 
Thanks for your response. This is probably a newbie follow up, butŠ

I¹m curious about option two. How can I build a persistent database with
--update without using TDB. Would I start Fuseki without the --mem option?
If so, where is the data getting stored if not with the TDB tools?

If I can somehow make a persistent data store while using only Fuseki, and
avoid using TBD for the time being, that would be the easiest option for
me.

Thanks for your help.
jw


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On 3/24/15, 6:44 AM, "Andy Seaborne" <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 23/03/15 16:19, Jeffrey Witt wrote:
>> I have been running an Apache Jean Fuseki with a closed port for a
>>while. At
>> present my other apps can access this via localhost.
>> Following their instructions I start this service as follows:
>> ./fuseki-server --update --mem /ds
>> This create and updatable in memory database.
>> The only way I currently know how to add data to this database is using
>>the
>> built-in http request tools:
>> ./s-post http://localhost:3030/ds/data
>> This works great except now I want to expose this port so that other
>>people
>> can query the dataset. However, I don't want to allow people to update
>>or
>> change the database, I just want them to be able to use and query the
>> information I originally loaded into the data base.
>> According to the documentation
>> (http://jena.apache.org/documentation/serving_data/), I can make the
>> database read-only by starting it without the update option.
>>> Data can be updated without access control if the server is started
>>>with the
>>> --update argument. If started without that argument, data is read-only.
>>
>> But when I start the database this way, I am no longer able to populate
>>with
>> the initial dataset.
>> So, MY QUESTION: How I start an in-memory Fuseki database which I can
>> populate with my original dataset but then disallow further http
>>updates.
>> (My guess is that I need another method to populate the Fueseki database
>> that is not using the http protocol. But I'm not sure)
>>
>>
>> I posted this question on StackOverflow as well:
>> 
>>http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29214852/how-to-start-apache-jena-fuse
>>ki-
>> as-read-only-service-but-also-initially-populat
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>
>Jeffrey,
>
>I can think of a couple of options:
>
>1/ Use TDB tools to build a database offline and then start the server
>read only on that TDB database.
>
>2/ Like (1) but use --update to build a persistent database, then stop
>the server, and restart without --update.  The database is now read
>only.  --update affects the services available and does not affect the
>data in any other way.
>
>Having a persistent database has the huge advantage that you can start
>and stop the server without needing to reload data.
>
>3/ Use a web server to pass through query requests to the fuseki server
>and limit the Fuseki server to talk to only localhost.  You can update
>from the local machine, external people can't.
>
>4/ Use Fuseki2 and adjust the security settings to allow update only
>from localhost but query from anywhere.
>
>What you can't do is update a TDB database currently being served by
>Fuseki.
>
>       Andy
>


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