Thanks for your suggestions. I got TDB running now. It only required a small change in ProcessUtils to get the process id. This adds a dependency on the Android sdk though, but it is possible to add a maven dependency on the sdk with "provided" scope so I think it's feasible.

According to the log TDB runs in direct mode on my test device as well as x68_64 emulator so perhaps detection doesn't work on right on Android yet. What would be a good way to test performance?

I think a JIRA is more appropriate for further discussion so I created one: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-914

Cheers,
Sören

On 02.04.2015 09:47, Andy Seaborne wrote:
You can configure the footprint of TDB in 32 bit "direct" mode for smaller datasets:

http://jena.staging.apache.org/documentation/tdb/store-parameters.html

    Andy

On 01/04/15 22:38, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
+1 - and how well does the memory mapping of TDB work on Dalvik?


Would jena-sdb work with SQLite?

https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html#db

You would probably need https://github.com/SQLDroid/SQLDroid so you
get a JDBC driver.


On 1 April 2015 at 18:02, Claude Warren <[email protected]> wrote:
Might it make sense to use a different persistence engine on Android since it probably will not have the huge datasets that TDB is designed for. It might make sense to have a small store available for small devices. Just a
thought.

Claude

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Sören Brunk <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi Andy,

thanks for your feedback and sorry for taking so long to reply. It would be great to get Android support into mainline Jena and I'm willing to help. It might be necessary to build an extra jar package for Android though,
similar to what jena-osgi does.


Is there are anything the Jena project can do that would make the
conversion? There may be things that Jena does, or the way is it packaged, that are inconvenient for you but really make no differnce to the project - sometimes things are just the way they are because it was done that way but could easily be done another way. If you have any such points, do email
thsilist or raise a JIRA.


The httpclient issue might resolve itself as soon as Jena is able to
switch to httpclient 4.3. I've looked into the javax.xml issues in more detail and the good news is that all the xsd datatype classes are actually there. What's missing are the StAX classes (everything in java.xml.stream) which seem to be used in ARQ and core (for SPARQL XML result sets, RDF/XML and TriX) and of course in Xerces. That means it's enough to repackage the
StAX classes from xml-apis and to modify jena-arq, jena-core and
xercesImpl. I've changed my build accordingly.

Android uses XmlPullParser for stream parsing. So another solution could be to replace StAX with a XmlPull based parsing but I guess that would take
some effort.


On Android, how does TDB work well?  TDB uses fairly traditional file
handling for 32 bit machines - "direct mode" - and uses memory mapped I/O for 64 bit machines - "mapped mode" - if it can detect the mode correctly. Detection is not subtle, it looks in system property "java.vm.info" and default to 32 bit. In mapped mode, it does try to use as much memory as possible which is not friendly to co-resident apps (you can force "direct"
mode programmatically).


Since most Android devices nowadays run on a 32 bit ARM architecture I
guess it will run almost always in direct mode.
But I realized that TDB isn't working at all at the moment, because it
depends on JDK classes that aren't available on Android for things like getting the PID. I think it is possible to replace those calls by using similar classes provided by the Android SDK. I will try to get it working.
A dependency on Android specific code would probably make mainline
integration more difficult though.

Sören



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