Indeed this helps, but it's still not clear weather and how I have to
prepare the database for GeoSparlql queries.

I changed my query according to Greg's advice:
PREFIX spatial: <http://jena.apache.org/spatial#>
SELECT * WHERE {
  ?feature spatial:withinBox( 43.0 0.0 48.0 10.0 100 )
} LIMIT 100
but no results.
Of course I checked that I have many triples with geo: coordinates within
that rectangle :
PREFIX geo: <http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#>
SELECT * WHERE {
?S geo:lat ?LAT .
?S geo:long ?LON .
 } LIMIT 100

Regarding simple export from triples with geo: coordinates to GML or
GeoJson, I'll write some code that I'll share.

Jean-Marc Vanel
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Le lun. 26 oct. 2020 à 16:38, Greg Albiston <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Hi Jena-Marc,
>
> The namespace <http://geovocab.org/spatial#> is for NeoGeo Spatial
> ontology, which has similarities to GeoSPARQL specification but is not
> fully compliant.
>
> The Apache Jena spatial property functions use
> <http://jena.apache.org/spatial#>. These are additional functions that
> extend the GeoSPARQL standard.
>
> So you are likely getting no result as the "spatial:withinBox" function
> in the query is undefined.
>
> Regarding your other question about GML and GeoJSON documents. The
> GeoSPARQL standard doesn't cover serialisation from or to geospatial
> document formats into the GeoSPARQL "Feature/Geometry/GeometryLiteral"
> structure. This is likely because it is expected that most use cases
> would stay in RDF format once setup. From my experience the GML
> standards are also unbelievably convoluted to fully support.
>
> It may be straight forward to convert a list of points to a minimum GML
> document that QGIS accepts.
>
> The "convert" functions are to harmonise a dataset to a single SRS and
> datatype to reduce overhead and confusion from switching between
> different formats when querying the data. Or to switch a dataset from
> one SRS or datatype to another, i.e. consolidating diverse data sources.
> They aren't for generating non-RDF spatial documents. These are also for
> GeoSPARQL structure datasets so a dataset using the LatLon geo
> predicates would need to be converted (for which the
> "convertGeoPredicates" might be useful).
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Greg
>
>
> On 26/10/2020 14:17, Jean-Marc Vanel wrote:
> > I missed ApacheCon, and I need some concrete hints sooner than next year.
> >
> > Currently my database gives an empty answer to :
> > PREFIX spatial: <http://geovocab.org/spatial#>
> > # ?feature spatial:withinBox(?latMin ?lonMin ?latMax ?lonMax [ ?limit])
> > SELECT * WHERE {
> >    ?feature spatial:withinBox( 43.0 0.0 46.0 10.0 100 )
> > } LIMIT 100
> >
> > Should I apply once for all GeoSPARQLOperations.convert() ?
> > static Dataset
> > <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/javadoc/arq/org/apache/jena/query/Dataset.html?is-external=true
> >
> > convert
> > <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/javadoc/geosparql/org/apache/jena/geosparql/configuration/GeoSPARQLOperations.html#convert-org.apache.jena.query.Dataset-
> >
> > (Dataset
> > <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/javadoc/arq/org/apache/jena/query/Dataset.html?is-external=true
> >
> >   dataset)
> > Convert the input dataset to the most frequent coordinate reference
> system
> > and default datatype.
> >
> > Jean-Marc Vanel
> > <
> http://semantic-forms.cc:9112/display?displayuri=http://jmvanel.free.fr/jmv.rdf%23me
> >
> > +33
> > (0)6 89 16 29 52
> >
> >
> > Le lun. 26 oct. 2020 à 11:02, Marco Neumann <[email protected]> a
> > écrit :
> >
> >> good questions Jean-Marc, I will organize a session early in the new
> year
> >> to address some of them. In your case geo:lat and geo:long are not part
> of
> >> OGC GeoSPARQL but require a transformation. We have a tool in place for
> >> that in Jena. And yes displaying large datasets need dedicated
> strategies
> >> for efficient processing. The points raised by you would make a good
> >> problem statement for our session next year. Not sure if you have
> attended
> >> the ApachCon 2020 GeoSPARQL session last month but it's where I
> >> mentioned further collaboration with third party tool developers as a
> >> possibility. stay tuned.
> >>
> >> Marco
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 9:14 AM Jean-Marc Vanel <
> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> After reading the official
> >>> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/geosparql/
> >>> I'm puzzled as to concrete how to .
> >>>
> >>> My simple export use case
> >>>
> >>>     - I have a TDB 1 database with geo:lat and long properties; the
> Jena
> >>>     geosparql dependency is added to my application
> >>>     - I have a LeafLet viewer able to display any RDF document with
> >> geo:lat
> >>>     and long properties ; example map
> >>>     <
> >>>
> >>
> https://semantic-forms.cc:1953/assets/geo-map/geo-map.html?link-prefix=http://semantic-forms.cc:1953/display?displayuri=&lang=fr&url=https://semantic-forms.cc:1953/sparql?query=%0APREFIX+form%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Fjmvanel%2Fsemantic_forms%2Fmaster%2Fvocabulary%2Fforms.owl.ttl%23%3E+%0APREFIX+rdfs%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2F01%2Frdf-schema%23%3E+%0APREFIX+geo%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2003%2F01%2Fgeo%2Fwgs84_pos%23%3E+%0APREFIX+foaf%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fxmlns.com%2Ffoaf%2F0.1%2F%3E+%0A%0ACONSTRUCT+%7B%0A++%3Fthing+geo%3Along+%3FLONG+.%0A++%3Fthing+geo%3Alat+%3FLAT+.%0A++%3Fthing+rdfs%3Alabel+%3FLAB+.%0A++%3Fthing+foaf%3Adepiction+%3FIMG+.%0A%7D+WHERE+%7B%0A++graph+%3Fg+%7B%0A++++%3Fthing+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fpurl.org%2FNET%2Fc4dm%2Fevent.owl%23produced_in%3E+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fsemantic-forms.cc%3A1952%2Fldp%2FCormoz%3E+.%0A++%7D%0A++graph+%3Fgcoord+%7B%0A++++%3Fthing+geo%3Along+%3FLONG+.%0A++++%3Fthing+geo%3Alat+%3FLAT+.%0A++%7D%0A++OPTIONAL+%7B%0A+++graph+%3Fg1+%7B%0A++++%3Fthing+rdfs%3Alabel+%3FLAB+%7D+%7D%0A++OPTIONAL+%7B%0A+++graph+%3Fg2+%7B%0A++++%3Fthing+%3Curn%3AdisplayLabel%3E+%3FLAB+%7D+%7D%0A%0A++OPTIONAL+%7B%0A+++graph+%3Fg3+%7B%0A++++%3Fthing+foaf%3Adepiction+%3FIMG+%7D+%7D%0A++OPTIONAL+%7B%0A+++graph+%3Fg4+%7B%0A++++%3Fthing+foaf%3Aimg+%3FIMG+%7D+%7D%0A%0A++++OPTIONAL+%7B%0A+++graph+%3FgrCount+%7B%0A++++%3Fthing+form%3AlinksCount+%3FCOUNT.%0A++%7D+%7D%0A%7D%0AORDER+BY+DESC%28%3FCOUNT%29%0A
> >>>     ; but I found that JavaScript based displayers are falling on their
> >>> knees
> >>>     (becoming very slow) for thousands of points
> >>>     - so I plan to use QGIS, so I need an export from RDF to one of the
> >>>     formats QGIS supports: GML, GeoJSON , etc
> >>>
> >>> How can I do that ?
> >>> Do I have to use one of the convert* methods in
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/javadoc/geosparql/index.html?org/apache/jena/geosparql/configuration/GeoSPARQLOperations.html
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> Jean-Marc Vanel
> >>> <
> >>>
> >>
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> >>> +33 (0)6 89 16 29 52
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> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
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