That said, I am just looking at the code base and I think we are missing a
property function for is3D which is mentioned in the  v1.0 spec.

On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 5:14 PM Marco Neumann <[email protected]>
wrote:

> good to see some discussion around this at GeoSPARQL 1.1. But from what I
> can see it is still in an early phase with regards to 3D.
>
> The name geosparql++ was just used  as a flag to indicate to the user that
> we are operating outside of the realm of OGC geosparql 1.0 spec.
>
> similar to what we do with sparql vs arq syntax
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 5:01 PM Lorenz Buehmann <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It's on the way with GeoSPARQL 1.1, isn't it? At least there are tickets
>> related to it, e.g. [1] and many functions will be stated to work on 3D
>> as well [2]
>>
>> > I personally think we should go beyond GeoSPARQL soon with Jena to
>> provide
>> > users with more advanced features. Possibly flag it as geosparql++ or
>> the
>> > like.
>> You mean because there was already this GeoSPARQL+ thing from Steffen
>> Staab group with support for rasterized data? It's a shame that those
>> stuff does never make it into the main public projects they are based
>> on. What a waste of resources and time (from my point of view)
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/opengeospatial/ogc-geosparql/issues/238
>> [2]
>>
>> https://opengeospatial.github.io/ogc-geosparql/geosparql11/spec.html#_b_1_functions_summary_table
>>
>> On 11.12.21 17:39, Marco Neumann wrote:
>> > That's correct Jean-Marc, no comma.
>> >
>> > And yes the OGC GeoSPARQL spec is not supporting 3D access methods. And
>> if
>> > you record a third dimension, which is of course possible, it will be
>> > ignored in Jena. Unfortunately the entire record will be. We could
>> record
>> > this as a bug but it's really not supported at the moment by the spec.
>> Many
>> > of the spatial functions in the OGC GeoSPARQL spec operate with a 2D
>> > reference system.
>> >
>> > I personally think we should go beyond GeoSPARQL soon with Jena to
>> provide
>> > users with more advanced features. Possibly flag it as geosparql++ or
>> the
>> > like.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Marco
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 4:15 PM Jean-Marc Vanel <
>> [email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I fixed the WKT not having the right datatype, as said before; here
>> are the
>> >> SPARQL used to check and fix:
>> >> COUNT-spatial-wkt-as-string.rq
>> >> <
>> >>
>> https://github.com/jmvanel/semantic_forms/blob/master/sparql/COUNT-spatial-wkt-as-string.rq
>> >> FIX-spatial-wkt-as-string.upd.rq
>> >> <
>> >>
>> https://github.com/jmvanel/semantic_forms/blob/master/sparql/FIX-spatial-wkt-as-string.upd.rq
>> >> Now this is not the end of the road . Another imperfect data causing
>> >> geosparql initialization to fail :
>> >>
>> >> *Exception: Build WKT Geometry Exception - Type: point, Coordinates:
>> >> (2.353821,48.83399,0). Index 1 out of bounds for length 1*
>> >> 2021-12-05T15:48:54.166Z [application-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-5]
>> >> ERROR jena -     Exception class:class
>> >> org.apache.jena.datatypes.DatatypeFormatException
>> >> 2021-12-05T15:48:54.167Z [application-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-5]
>> >> ERROR jena -     Exception
>> >> org.apache.jena.datatypes.DatatypeFormatException: Build WKT Geometry
>> >> Exception - Type: point, Coordinates: (2.353821,48.83399,0). Index 1
>> out of
>> >> bounds for length 1
>> >>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.parsers.wkt.WKTReader.buildGeometry(WKTReader.java:141)
>> >>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.parsers.wkt.WKTReader.<init>(WKTReader.java:50)
>> >>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.parsers.wkt.WKTReader.extract(WKTReader.java:292)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.datatype.WKTDatatype.read(WKTDatatype.java:89)
>> >>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.index.GeometryLiteralIndex.retrieveMemoryIndex(GeometryLiteralIndex.java:69)
>> >>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.index.GeometryLiteralIndex.retrieve(GeometryLiteralIndex.java:51)
>> >>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.datatype.GeometryDatatype.parse(GeometryDatatype.java:57)
>> >>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1176)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1137)
>> >>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1147)
>> >> org.apache.jena.geosparql.configuration.ModeSRS.search(ModeSRS.java:61)
>> >>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.configuration.GeoSPARQLOperations.findModeSRS(GeoSPARQLOperations.java:520)
>> >>
>> >> Is it because the WKT separator should be a space instead of a comma,
>> or
>> >> because 3D is not allowed ?
>> >>
>> >> Jean-Marc Vanel
>> >> <
>> >>
>> http://semantic-forms.cc:9112/display?displayuri=http://jmvanel.free.fr/jmv.rdf%23me
>> >> +33
>> >> (0)6 89 16 29 52
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Le dim. 5 déc. 2021 à 13:03, Jean-Marc Vanel <[email protected]>
>> a
>> >> écrit :
>> >>
>> >>> After looking at this code, failing line in bold:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> jena-geosparql/src/main/java/org/apache/jena/geosparql/configuration/ModeSRS.java
>> >>>
>> >>
>> https://github.com/apache/jena/blob/main/jena-geosparql/src/main/java/org/apache/jena/geosparql/configuration/ModeSRS.java
>> >>>          ExtendedIterator<RDFNode> nodeIter =
>> >>> model.listObjectsOfProperty(Geo.HAS_SERIALIZATION_PROP);
>> >>>          boolean isGeometryLiteralsFound = nodeIter.hasNext();
>> >>>          if (!isGeometryLiteralsFound) {
>> >>>              NodeIterator wktNodeIter =
>> >>> model.listObjectsOfProperty(Geo.AS_WKT_PROP);
>> >>>              NodeIterator gmlNodeIter =
>> >>> model.listObjectsOfProperty(Geo.AS_GML_PROP);
>> >>>              nodeIter = wktNodeIter.andThen(gmlNodeIter);
>> >>>          }
>> >>>
>> >>>          while (nodeIter.hasNext()) {
>> >>>              RDFNode node = nodeIter.next();
>> >>>              if (node.isLiteral()) {
>> >>> *                GeometryWrapper geometryWrapper =
>> >>> GeometryWrapper.extract(node.asLiteral());*
>> >>>
>> >>> I did SELECT queries to try to understand what is wrong .
>> >>> It appears that these triples are not present:
>> >>> ?S <http://www.opengis.net/ont/geosparql#hasSerialization> ?O .
>> >>> ?S <http://www.opengis.net/ont/geosparql#asGML> ?O .
>> >>>
>> >>> BUT, there is a bunch of these triples:
>> >>> ?S <http://www.opengis.net/ont/geosparql#asWKT> ?O .
>> >>>
>> >>> Here is one example of the object values:
>> >>> "POINT(-4.189911,54.880557,0)"
>> >>> I probably imported them by hacking a JSON API as JSON-LD , I have to
>> >>> check my journals ...
>> >>>
>> >>> Looking at the OGC GeoSPARQL standard, I saw that the WKT strings
>> should
>> >>> have this datatype :
>> >>> http://www.opengis.net/ont/geosparql#wktLiteral
>> >>>
>> >>> So I can make a SPARQL update to FIX my data .
>> >>> But maybe Jena GeoSPARQL could be forgiving about the string datatype
>> for
>> >>> WKT data .
>> >>> And the error message should be more explicit ...
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks Andy for the quick answer.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jean-Marc Vanel
>> >>> <
>> >>
>> http://semantic-forms.cc:9112/display?displayuri=http://jmvanel.free.fr/jmv.rdf%23me
>> >
>> >> +33
>> >>> (0)6 89 16 29 52
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Le dim. 5 déc. 2021 à 11:52, Jean-Marc Vanel <
>> [email protected]>
>> >> a
>> >>> écrit :
>> >>>
>> >>>> After having fixed bad data in the TDB database (latitude is present
>> but
>> >>>> not longitude, coordinates as strings , see issue
>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-2202 ),
>> >>>> there is an exception, probably related to the database content.
>> >>>> Here is the log:
>> >>>> Dec 05, 2021 9:57:33 AM
>> >>>> org.apache.sis.referencing.factory.sql.EPSGFactory <init>
>> >>>> WARNING: The “SIS_DATA” environment variable is not set.
>> >>>> 2021-12-05T09:57:33.940Z
>> [application-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-9]
>> >>>> INFO  jena - SpatialIndex: isFunctionRegistered true
>> >>>> 2021-12-05T09:57:33.941Z
>> [application-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-9]
>> >>>> INFO  jena - Before setupSpatialIndex
>> >>>> 2021-12-05T09:57:33.948Z
>> [application-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-9]
>> >>>> INFO  o.a.j.g.c.GeoSPARQLOperations - Find Mode SRS - Started
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And here is the exception:
>> >>>> *Exception: Unrecognised Geometry Datatype:
>> >>>> http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string
>> >>>> <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string> Ensure that Datatype is
>> >> extending
>> >>>> GeometryDatatype.*
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.datatype.GeometryDatatype.get(GeometryDatatype.java:78)
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.datatype.GeometryDatatype.get(GeometryDatatype.java:86)
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1175)
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1137)
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.implementation.GeometryWrapper.extract(GeometryWrapper.java:1147)
>> >>>>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.configuration.ModeSRS.search(ModeSRS.java:61)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.configuration.GeoSPARQLOperations.findModeSRS(GeoSPARQLOperations.java:520)
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.spatial.SpatialIndex.buildSpatialIndex(SpatialIndex.java:336)
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> org.apache.jena.geosparql.configuration.GeoSPARQLConfig.setupSpatialIndex(GeoSPARQLConfig.java:263)
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> deductions.runtime.jena.RDFStoreLocalJenaProviderObject$.createDatabase(RDFStoreLocalJenaProvider.scala:175)
>> >>>> I use the latest Jena release 4.2.0 . Note that there is no trouble
>> on
>> >> my
>> >>>> development machine, only on the production site , although the
>> source
>> >> is
>> >>>> the same .
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jean-Marc Vanel
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>>
>
>
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>
>
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