Hi Luis,

Why don't you drop me a line on the email below and I'll respond directly?

Cheers, Nick


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On Monday, January 9th, 2023 at 16:29, Luis Enrique Ramos García 
<[email protected]> wrote:


> Dear Nicolas,
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> I would be interested in getting more information about your approach,
> should I contact you directly,
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> or could you provide such information by this way?.
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> Best regards
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> Luis Ramos
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> El lun, 9 ene 2023 a las 6:51, Nicholas Car ([email protected]) escribió:
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> > In case readers of this tread, or the list generally, are interested, we
> > are testing out a virtual graph access control system that works nicely
> > with Jena/Fuseki. We create Virtual Graphs that are Named Graphs with no
> > content but are closures of other Named Graphs that do hold content. In
> > this way, we can implement fancy access control - multiple users, groups
> > and roles - to small graph parts, using just standard quad store elements +
> > administration data holdings.
> > 
> > So here you would break the larger graph into a Named Graph per governance
> > unit - whatever your smallest conception of that is - and then build back
> > up access to multiple Named Graphs via Virtual Graphs. All done in Fuseki
> > back-end + access control API.
> > 
> > Happy to share more details if anyone in interested here or directly.
> > 
> > Cheers, Nick
> > 
> > --
> > Dr Nicholas Car
> > Data Architect & Knowledge Graph Specialist
> > Kurrawong AI
> > [email protected]
> > 0477 560 177
> > https://kurrawong.net
> > 
> > Honorary Lecturer
> > College of Engineering, Computing & Cybernetics
> > Australian National University
> > https://cecc.anu.edu.au/people/nicholas-car
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > ------- Original Message -------
> > On Monday, January 9th, 2023 at 07:01, Andy Seaborne [email protected]
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > On 06/01/2023 15:37, Jonathan MERCIER wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Hi Jonathan,
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Andy,
> > > > 
> > > > > Could you say somnthing about the usage patterns you are interested
> > > > > in
> > > > > supporting? Size of data? Query load?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes of course, we aims to store Partially uniprot ontology in order to
> > > > study metabolism on multiple layer
> > > > Organism/Gene/Protein/Reaction/Pathway.
> > > > Thus we will get a huge amount of public and private data (both
> > > > academic
> > > > research and industrial).
> > > > So we have to use apache shiro to contol who can acces some data (by
> > > > tenant)
> > > 
> > > Shiro will do the authentication and API security for authorization.
> > > 
> > > To get the access control on parts of the overall data, do you split the
> > > data into separate triplestores? Do you use the per-graph access control
> > > of Jena to get data level security?
> > > 
> > > The per-graph access control works if (1) you can manage the data that
> > > way with named graphs and (2) the access control is user, or role, based.
> > > 
> > > In dayjob, I'm working on another data access control system - we have
> > > existing data which does not decompose into named graphs very easily and
> > > the access control rules don't fit user/role bases (Role Based Access
> > > Control = RBAC).
> > > 
> > > Attribute Based Access Control (ABAC) can go down to labelling the
> > > access conditions on individual triples - and also provides of simple
> > > triple pattern matching (because sometimes, many triples have the same
> > > label e.g. they have the same property).
> > > 
> > > The "attribute" part comes from having key/value boolean expressions for
> > > access conditions, such as "department=engineering & status=employee"
> > > which can be moved around with the data when sharing across enterprise
> > > boundaries.
> > > 
> > > > Currently size of data is estimated around 1 To
> > > > We will provides a Knowledge release time to time so we will most of
> > > > time doing read only query and sometime we will push our new release (1
> > > > To).
> > > 
> > > Then the full capabilities of RDF Delta may not be needed. Sounds like
> > > offline database build, copy DB to multiple triple stores behind a load
> > > balancer.
> > > 
> > > Full 24x7 update with no single point of failure is nice but it is
> > > complex. More servers (cost), more admin (more cost!).
> > > 
> > > Or for a few not-time critical incremental updates, a simple mode for
> > > RDF Delta is with a single patch manager with a replicated filesystem.
> > > This is a single point of failure for updates, but the Fuseki replicas
> > > can provide query service through-out. It is simpler to operate.
> > > 
> > > Andy
> > > 
> > > > > There is a Lucene based text index.
> > > > > Indeed I see this I will take a look, on how to enable lucene with
> > > > > TDB
> > > > 
> > > > Also we will take a look to the fuseki API in order to be able to use
> > > > it
> > > > through our python application (more rarely Kotlin)
> > > > 
> > > > We aims to perform some GeoSpatial query (maybe we would have to make a
> > > > plugin) in order to have a dedicated algorithm to walk though our
> > > > knowledge graph
> > > > 
> > > > > 2) can we deploy a distributed TDB service, in order to have
> > > > > efficient
> > > > > query ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > It can scale sideways with multiple copies of the database kept
> > > > > consistent across a cluster of replicas using the separate project
> > > > > (it
> > > > > is not an Apache Foundation project) that provides high availability
> > > > > and multiple query
> > > > > 
> > > > > RDF Delta https://afs.github.io/rdf-delta
> > > > > Thanks Andy I will take a look

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