Tried 4.7.0 under most up to date java 17 and it acts like 4.8.0. After 16hours it gets to about 1.6GB and by eye has nearly flatted off somewhat but not completely.

For interest here's a MEM% curve on a 4GB box (hope the link works).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xjmluk4o3wlwo0y/fuseki-mem-percent.png?dl=0

The flattish curve from 12:00 to 17:20 is a run using 3.16.0 for comparison. The curve from then onwards is 4.7.0.

The spikes on the 4.7.0 match the allocation and recovery of the direct memory buffers. The JVM metrics show those cycling around every 10mins and being reclaimed each time with no leaking visible at that level. Heap, non-heap and mapped buffers are all basically unchanging which is to be expected since it's doing nothing apart from reporting metrics.

Whereas this curve (again from 17:20 onwards) shows basically the same 4.7.0 set up on a separate host, showing that despite flattening out somewhat usage continues to grow - a least on a 16 hour timescale.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k0v54yq4kexklk0/fuseki-mem-percent-2.png?dl=0


Both of those runs were using Eclipse Temurin on a base Ubuntu jammy container. Pervious runs used AWS Corretto on an AL2 base container. Behaviour basically unchanged so eliminates this being some Corretto-specific issue or a weird base container OS issue.

Dave

On 03/07/2023 14:54, Andy Seaborne wrote:
Hi Dave,

Could you try 4.7.0?

4.6.0 was 2022-08-20
4.7.0 was 2022-12-27
4.8.0 was 2023-04-20

This is an in-memory database?

Micrometer/Prometheus has had several upgrades but if it is not heap and not direct memory (I though that was a hard bound set at start up), I don't see how it can be involved.

     Andy

On 03/07/2023 14:20, Dave Reynolds wrote:
We have a very strange problem with recent fuseki versions when running (in docker containers) on small machines. Suspect a jetty issue but it's not clear.

Wondering if anyone has seen anything like this.

This is a production service but with tiny data (~250k triples, ~60MB as NQuads). Runs on 4GB machines with java heap allocation of 500MB[1].

We used to run using 3.16 on jdk 8 (AWS Corretto for the long term support) with no problems.

Switching to fuseki 4.8.0 on jdk 11 the process grows in the space of a day or so to reach ~3GB of memory at which point the 4GB machine becomes unviable and things get OOM killed.

The strange thing is that this growth happens when the system is answering no Sparql queries at all, just regular health ping checks and (prometheus) metrics scrapes from the monitoring systems.

Furthermore the space being consumed is not visible to any of the JVM metrics: - Heap and and non-heap are stable at around 100MB total (mostly non-heap metaspace).
- Mapped buffers stay at 50MB and remain long term stable.
- Direct memory buffers being allocated up to around 500MB then being reclaimed. Since there are no sparql queries at all we assume this is jetty NIO buffers being churned as a result of the metric scrapes. However, this direct buffer behaviour seems stable, it cycles between 0 and 500MB on approx a 10min cycle but is stable over a period of days and shows no leaks.

Yet the java process grows from an initial 100MB to at least 3GB. This can occur in the space of a couple of hours or can take up to a day or two with no predictability in how fast.

Presumably there is some low level JNI space allocated by Jetty (?) which is invisible to all the JVM metrics and is not being reliably reclaimed.

Trying 4.6.0, which we've had less problems with elsewhere, that seems to grow to around 1GB (plus up to 0.5GB for the cycling direct memory buffers) and then stays stable (at least on a three day soak test). We could live with allocating 1.5GB to a system that should only need a few 100MB but concerned that it may not be stable in the really long term and, in any case, would rather be able to update to more recent fuseki versions.

Trying 4.8.0 on java 17 it grows rapidly to around 1GB again but then keeps ticking up slowly at random intervals. We project that it would take a few weeks to grow the scale it did under java 11 but it will still eventually kill the machine.

Anyone seem anything remotely like this?

Dave

[1]  500M heap may be overkill but there can be some complex queries and that should still leave plenty of space for OS buffers etc in the remaining memory on a 4GB machine.



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