I had a quick look at the SPARQL 1.1 Federated Query W3C specification document 
and understand that the only way to use in the remote SPARLQ services, 
variables that are bound in the local SPARQL query Is to use a VALUES clause 
(https://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-federated-query/#values). Unfortunately, there 
is no example in that document on how to use it, and in the examples I found on 
the net, the VALUE clause is used to bind variables to fully instantiated IRI 
or literals in the query, whereas in my case, these variables will be 
instantiated by processing  local subqueries (as my "target" query in my 
previous mail suggests).
Any workaround?


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-----Message d'origine-----
De : RAMPARANY Fano INNOV/IT-S 
Envoyé : mardi 29 août 2023 10:58
À : [email protected]
Objet : RE: Problem with federated queries

Thank you for pointing us reason of the issue. However, it seems that 
introducing the subquery first doesn't seem to work either.

I slightly modified the query you suggested to:

PREFIX wd: <http://www.wikidata.org/entity/> PREFIX owl: 
<http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#> PREFIX ex: <http://example/> PREFIX wdt:  
<http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/>
PREFIX geof: <http://www.opengis.net/def/geosparql/function/>
SELECT *
WHERE {
  {
    SELECT ?ParisWDID ?BordeauxWDID
    WHERE {
      BIND (wd:Q90 AS ?ParisWDID)
      BIND (wd:Q1479 AS ?BordeauxWDID)
    }
  }
  SERVICE <https://query.wikidata.org/sparql> {
   ?ParisWDID wdt:P625 ?ParisLoc .
   ?BordeauxWDID wdt:P625 ?BordeauxLoc .
   BIND(geof:distance(?ParisLoc,?BordeauxLoc) AS ?dist)
  }
}

Because the variables ?ParisWDID and ?BordeauxWDID should hold the Wikidata 
identifiers. But the target query should be:

PREFIX wd: <http://www.wikidata.org/entity/> PREFIX owl: 
<http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#> PREFIX ex: <http://example/> PREFIX wdt:  
<http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/>
PREFIX geof: <http://www.opengis.net/def/geosparql/function/>
SELECT *
WHERE {
  {
    SELECT ?ParisWDID ?BordeauxWDID
    WHERE {
      ?ParisWDID owl:sameAs ex:Paris .
      ?BordeauxWDID owl:sameAs ex:Bordeaux .
    }
  }
  SERVICE <https://query.wikidata.org/sparql> {
   ?ParisWDID wdt:P625 ?ParisLoc .
   ?BordeauxWDID wdt:P625 ?BordeauxLoc .
   BIND(geof:distance(?ParisLoc,?BordeauxLoc) AS ?dist)
  }
}

As these identifiers are defined in the RDF graph and are not supposed to be 
known when building the query.

Unfortunately, although they use subqueries, none of the two queries work. The 
error persists ☹
 
Fano


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-----Message d'origine-----
De : Thomas Francart <[email protected]> Envoyé : lundi 28 août 2023 
18:26 À : [email protected] Objet : Re: Problem with federated queries

One typical problem is that the federated query might be executed *before* the 
rest of the query.
So when you write

  SERVICE https://query.wikidata.org/sparql {
   ?ParisWDID wdt:P625 ?ParisLoc .
   ?BordeauxWDID wdt:P625 ?BordeauxLoc .
   BIND(geof:distance(?ParisLoc,?BordeauxLoc) AS ?dist)
  }

Then that part is sent to Wikidata *without any bindings of the variables*, 
which is basically asking wikidata to return the distance between *all* pairs 
of entities in the database, resulting in a timeout.
And this is why your second query works.

If you want to guarantee ordering of execution, use a subquery, which is 
logically executed first :

PREFIX wd: http://www.wikidata.org/entity/ PREFIX owl: 
http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl# PREFIX ex: http://example/ PREFIX wdt:  
http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/
PREFIX geof: http://www.opengis.net/def/geosparql/function/
SELECT *
WHERE {

{
  SELECT ?ParisWDID ?BordeauxWDID
  WHERE {
    BIND(ex:Paris AS ?ParisWDID )
    BIND(ex:Bordeaux AS ?BordeauxWDID )
  }
}

  ?ParisWDID owl:sameAs ex:Paris .
  ?BordeauxWDID owl:sameAs ex:Bordeaux .
  SERVICE https://query.wikidata.org/sparql {
   ?ParisWDID wdt:P625 ?ParisLoc .
   ?BordeauxWDID wdt:P625 ?BordeauxLoc .
   BIND(geof:distance(?ParisLoc,?BordeauxLoc) AS ?dist)
  }
}

(note : that typical query pattern is supported in Sparnatural SPARQL query 
builder, see 
http://docs.sparnatural.eu/Federated-querying.html#additionnal-experimental-config--executedafter
)

Le lun. 28 août 2023 à 18:08, <[email protected]> a écrit :

>
> Hello,
>
> I've got a problem running this query on fuseki 4.9.0 (basically, I'd 
> like to delegate to Wikidata, the computation of the distance between 
> two
> cities) :
>
> PREFIX wd: http://www.wikidata.org/entity/ PREFIX owl: 
> http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl# PREFIX ex: http://example/ PREFIX wdt:  
> http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/
> PREFIX geof: http://www.opengis.net/def/geosparql/function/
> SELECT *
> WHERE {
>   ?ParisWDID owl:sameAs ex:Paris .
>   ?BordeauxWDID owl:sameAs ex:Bordeaux .
>   SERVICE https://query.wikidata.org/sparql {
>    ?ParisWDID wdt:P625 ?ParisLoc .
>    ?BordeauxWDID wdt:P625 ?BordeauxLoc .
>    BIND(geof:distance(?ParisLoc,?BordeauxLoc) AS ?dist)
>   }
> }
> ____________
> Here is the content of my rdf graph:
>
> @prefix wd: http://www.wikidata.org/entity/ .
> @prefix owl: http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl# .
> @prefix wdt: http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/ .
> @prefix ex: http://example/ .
>
> wd:Q90 owl:sameAs ex:Paris .
>
> wd:Q1479 owl:sameAs ex:Bordeaux .
>
> ____________
> Here is the trace on the standard output:
>
> 17:44:59 INFO  Fuseki          :: [8] POST
> http://localhost:3030/sparql/sparql
> 17:44:59 INFO  Fuseki          :: [8] Query = PREFIX wd:
> http://www.wikidata.org/entity/ PREFIX owl: 
> http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl# PREFIX ex: http://example/ PREFIX wdt:
> http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/  PREFIX geof:
> http://www.opengis.net/def/geosparql/function/  SELECT * WHERE {
>  ?ParisWDID owl:sameAs ex:Paris .   ?BordeauxWDID owl:sameAs ex:Bordeaux .
>  SERVICE https://query.wikidata.org/sparql {    ?ParisWDID wdt:P625
> ?ParisLoc .    ?BordeauxWDID wdt:P625 ?BordeauxLoc .
> BIND(geof:distance(?ParisLoc,?BordeauxLoc) AS ?dist)   } }
> 17:46:08 WARN  Fuseki          :: [8] RC = 500 :
> com.google.gson.stream.MalformedJsonException: Unterminated string at 
> line
> 19922828 column 49 path $.results.bindings[855041].ParisLoc.value
> org.apache.jena.sparql.resultset.ResultSetException:
> com.google.gson.stream.MalformedJsonException: Unterminated string at 
> line
> 19922828 column 49 path $.results.bindings[855041].ParisLoc.value
>       at
> org.apache.jena.riot.rowset.rw.rs_json.RowSetJSONStreaming.moveToNext(
> RowSetJSONStreaming.java:214)
> ~[fuseki-server.jar:4.9.0]
>       at
> org.apache.jena.riot.rowset.rw.rs_json.RowSetJSONStreaming.moveToNext(
> RowSetJSONStreaming.java:66)
> ~[fuseki-server.jar:4.9.0]
> ...
>       at
> org.apache.jena.riot.rowset.rw.rs_json.IteratorRsJSON.computeNextActua
> l(IteratorRsJSON.java:136)
> ~[fuseki-server.jar:4.9.0]
>       at
> org.apache.jena.riot.rowset.rw.rs_json.IteratorRsJSON.moveToNext(Itera
> torRsJSON.java:72)
> ~[fuseki-server.jar:4.9.0]
>       at
> org.apache.jena.atlas.iterator.IteratorSlotted.hasNext(IteratorSlotted
> .java:63)
> ~[fuseki-server.jar:4.9.0]
>       at
> org.apache.jena.riot.rowset.rw.rs_json.RowSetJSONStreaming.computeNext
> Actual(RowSetJSONStreaming.java:225)
> ~[fuseki-server.jar:4.9.0]
>       at
> org.apache.jena.riot.rowset.rw.rs_json.RowSetJSONStreaming.moveToNext(
> RowSetJSONStreaming.java:210)
> ~[fuseki-server.jar:4.9.0]
>       ... 112 more
> 17:46:08 INFO  Fuseki          :: [8] 500 Server Error (68,499 s)
>
> ____________
> I verified that when replacing the variables ?ParisWDID and 
> ?BordeauxWDID with their values, the query is processed correctly. Thus this 
> query works:
>
> PREFIX wd: http://www.wikidata.org/entity/ PREFIX owl: 
> http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl# PREFIX ex: http://example/ PREFIX wdt:  
> http://www.wikidata.org/prop/direct/
> PREFIX geof: http://www.opengis.net/def/geosparql/function/
> SELECT *
> WHERE {
> SERVICE https://query.wikidata.org/sparql {
>    wd:Q90 wdt:P625 ?ParisLoc .
>    wd:Q1479 wdt:P625 ?BordeauxLoc .
>    BIND(geof:distance(?ParisLoc,?BordeauxLoc) AS ?dist) } }
>
> ____________
> Thank you for any hint on what I did wrong
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Fano
>
>
>
>
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