Could you increase parallelism on the consumers?

Thanks,

Jun


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Jason Rosenberg <j...@squareup.com> wrote:

> The consumption rate is a little better after the refactoring.  The main
> issue though, was that we had a mismatch between large and small topics.  A
> large topic can lag, and adversely affect consumption of other topics, so
> this is an attempt to isolate topic filtering, and better balance the
> consumers for the different topics.
>
> So, it's definitely working on that score.
>
> The topic that was lagging (and getting OffsetOutOfRangeExceptions) was
> doing that before and after the refactor (and after we started also seeing
> the ERROR logging).  But consumption of all other topics is working better
> now (almost no lag at all).
>
> I'm also setting the client.id for each consumer in the process, so that I
> can see the individual metrics per consumer.
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Jun Rao <jun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Does the consumption rate in the client (msg/sec) change significantly
> > after the refactoring?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jun
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Jason Rosenberg <j...@squareup.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, it's happening continuously, at the moment (although I'm expecting
> > the
> > > consumer to catch up soon)....
> > >
> > > It seemed to start happening after I refactored the consumer app to use
> > > multiple consumer connectors in the same process (each one has a
> separate
> > > topic filter, so should be no overlap between them).  All using the
> same
> > > consumer group.
> > >
> > > Could it be a thread safety issue in the ZookeeperConsumerConnector
> > (seems
> > > unlikely).
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Jun Rao <jun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Normally, if the consumer can't keep up, you should just see the
> > > > OffsetOutOfRangeException warning. The offset mismatch error should
> > never
> > > > happen. It could be that OffsetOutOfRangeException exposed a bug. Do
> > you
> > > > think you can reproduce this easily?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jun
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Jason Rosenberg <j...@squareup.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Jun,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure I understand your question, wrt produced data?
> > > > >
> > > > > But yes, in general, I believe the consumer is not keeping up with
> > the
> > > > > broker's deleting the data.  So it's trying to fetch the next batch
> > of
> > > > > data, but it's last offset is no longer there, etc.  So that's the
> > > reason
> > > > > for the WARN message, in the fetcher thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm just not sure I understand then why we don't always see the
> > > > > ConsumerIterator error also, because won't there always be missing
> > data
> > > > > detected there?  Why sometimes and not always?  What's the
> > difference?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Jun Rao <jun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The WARN and ERROR may not be completely correlated. Could it be
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > consumer is slow and couldn't keep up with the produced data?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jun
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Jason Rosenberg <
> j...@squareup.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, sometimes I just get the WARN from the
> ConsumerFetcherThread
> > > (as
> > > > > > > previously noted, above), e.g.:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2014-01-08 02:31:47,394  WARN
> > > > [ConsumerFetcherThread-myconsumerapp-11]
> > > > > > > consumer.ConsumerFetcherThread -
> > > > > > > [ConsumerFetcherThread-myconsumerapp-11], Current offset
> > > 16163904970
> > > > > > > for partition [mypartition,0] out of range; reset offset to
> > > > > > > 16175326044
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > More recently, I see these in the following log line (not sure
> > why
> > > I
> > > > > > > didn't see it previously), coming from the ConsumerIterator:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2014-01-08 02:31:47,681 ERROR [myconsumerthread-0]
> > > > > > > consumer.ConsumerIterator - consumed offset: 16163904970
> doesn't
> > > > match
> > > > > > > fetch offset: 16175326044 for mytopic:0: fetched offset =
> > > > 16175330598:
> > > > > > > consumed offset = 16163904970;
> > > > > > >  Consumer may lose data
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why would I not see this second ERROR everytime there's a
> > > > > > > corresponding WARN on the FetcherThread for an offset reset?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Should I only be concerned about possible lost data if I see
> the
> > > > > > > second ERROR log line?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jason
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Jason Rosenberg <
> > j...@squareup.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > But I assume this would not be normally you'd want to log
> > (every
> > > > > > > > incoming producer request?).  Maybe just for debugging?  Or
> is
> > it
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > > for consumer fetch requests?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Guozhang Wang <
> > > > wangg...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> TRACE is lower than INFO so INFO level request logging would
> > > also
> > > > be
> > > > > > > >> recorded.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> You can check for "Completed XXX request" in the log files
> to
> > > > check
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> request info with the correlation id.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Guozhang
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Jason Rosenberg <
> > > > j...@squareup.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> Hmmm, it looks like I'm enabling all logging at INFO, and
> the
> > > > > request
> > > > > > > >>> logging is only done at TRACE (why is that?).
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I suppose one wouldn't normally want to see request logs,
> so
> > by
> > > > > > > default,
> > > > > > > >>> they aren't enabled?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Jun Rao <
> jun...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> > Did you enable request log? It logs the ip of every
> > request.
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > Jun
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Jason Rosenberg <
> > > > > j...@squareup.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>> > > Hi Guozhang,
> > > > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > I'm not sure I understand your first answer.  I don't
> see
> > > > > > anything
> > > > > > > >>> > > regarding the correlation id, elsewhere in the broker
> > > > > > logs.....They
> > > > > > > >>> only
> > > > > > > >>> > > show up in those ERROR messages....
> > > > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > I do see correlation id's in clients, but not on the
> > > > > broker.....
> > > > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > Jason
> > > > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Guozhang Wang <
> > > > > > wangg...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > Jason,
> > > > > > > >>> > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > You can search the correlation id in the public
> access
> > > log
> > > > on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> > servers
> > > > > > > >>> > > > to get the consumer information.
> > > > > > > >>> > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > As for logging, I agree that we should use the same
> > level
> > > > on
> > > > > > both
> > > > > > > >>> > sides.
> > > > > > > >>> > > > Could you file a jira for this?
> > > > > > > >>> > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > Guozhang
> > > > > > > >>> > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Jason Rosenberg <
> > > > > > > j...@squareup.com>
> > > > > > > >>> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > In our broker logs, we occasionally see errors like
> > > this:
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > 2013-12-23 05:02:08,456 ERROR
> > [kafka-request-handler-2]
> > > > > > > >>> > > server.KafkaApis
> > > > > > > >>> > > > -
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > [KafkaApi-45] Error when processing fetch request
> for
> > > > > > partition
> > > > > > > >>> > > > [mytopic,0]
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > offset 204243601 from consumer with correlation id
> > > 130341
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > kafka.common.OffsetOutOfRangeException: Request for
> > > > offset
> > > > > > > >>> 204243601
> > > > > > > >>> > > but
> > > > > > > >>> > > > we
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > only have log segments in the range 204343397 to
> > > > 207423640.
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > I assume this means there's a consumer that has
> > fallen
> > > > > behind
> > > > > > > >>> > consuming
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > messages, and the log retention policy has removed
> > > > messages
> > > > > > > before
> > > > > > > >>> > they
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > could be consumed by the consumer.
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > However, I'm not 100% which consumer it is, and it
> > > looks
> > > > > like
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> > only
> > > > > > > >>> > > > info
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > we have is the correlation id of the consumer,
> e.g.:
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > "from consumer with correlation id 130341"
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Is there a way to know which consumer this refers
> to?
> > >  It
> > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > >>> there
> > > > > > > >>> > > are
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > far more correlation id's than there are consumers.
> > > >  Would
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > >>> > > possible
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > to provide a bit more descriptive error message
> here,
> > > so
> > > > we
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > >>> > > > immediately
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > know which consumer is falling behind?
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > We do see a corresponding entry in the consumer
> logs
> > > too:
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > 2013-12-23 05:02:08,797  WARN
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > [ConsumerFetcherThread-myconsumergroup-1387353494862-7aa0c61d-0-45]
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > consumer.ConsumerFetcherThread -
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> [ConsumerFetcherThread-myconsumergroup-1387353494862-7aa0c61d-0-45],
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Current offset 204243601 for partition [mytopic,0]
> > out
> > > of
> > > > > > > range;
> > > > > > > >>> > reset
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > offset to 204343397
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > But it would be nice to be able to also use the
> > broker
> > > > log
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>> quickly
> > > > > > > >>> > > > find
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > consumers with issues.
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Also, I'm not sure, why is logging the event as an
> > > ERROR
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >>> > broker,
> > > > > > > >>> > > > but
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > a WARN in the consumer?
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > > Jason
> > > > > > > >>> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > > > --
> > > > > > > >>> > > > -- Guozhang
> > > > > > > >>> > > >
> > > > > > > >>> > >
> > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > >> -- Guozhang
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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