Oh, man, that’s a good idea.

I can propose to deprecate (not remove) the existing ‘of’ factory method and 
add one with a mandatory grace period. Not sure why I didn’t think of that 
before. Probably too caught up in looking for something “smart”.

Thanks!
John

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, at 02:27, Liam Clarke wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> I can't really think of a way to make it more obvious without breaking
> backwards compatibility - e.g., obvious easy fix is that grace period is a
> mandatory arg to TimeWindows, but that would definitely break compatibility.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Liam Clarke-Hutchinson
> 
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:59 AM John Roesler <vvcep...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> > Boom, you got it, Liam! Nice debugging work.
> >
> > This is a pretty big bummer, but I had to do it that way for
> > compatibility. I added a log message to try and help reduce the risk, but
> > it’s still kind of a trap.
> >
> > I’d like to do a KIP at some point to consider changing the default grace
> > period, but haven’t done it because it’s not clear what the default should
> > be.
> >
> > Please let me know if you have any ideas!
> > Thanks,
> > -John
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, at 23:44, Liam Clarke wrote:
> > > And the answer is to change
> > > .windowedBy(TimeWindows.of(Duration.ofMillis(5000)))
> > > and specify the grace period:
> > >
> > >
> > windowedBy(TimeWindows.of(Duration.ofMillis(5000)).grace(Duration.ofMillis(100)))
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 4:34 PM Liam Clarke <liam.cla...@adscale.co.nz>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okay, doing some debugging it looks like I'm seeing this behaviour
> > because
> > > > it's picking up a grace duration of 86,395,000 ms in
> > > > KTableImpl.buildSuppress, which would happen to be  5000 millis (my
> > window
> > > > size) off 24 hours, so I've got some clues!
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 3:43 PM Liam Clarke <liam.cla...@adscale.co.nz
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> I have a case where I want to consume from a topic, count the number
> > of
> > > >> certain ids in a given time period X, and emit a new record to a
> > different
> > > >> topic after that same time period X has elapsed containing the
> > aggregated
> > > >> value.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm using suppress with Suppressed.untilWindowCloses, but nothing is
> > ever
> > > >> emitted, nor is my peek placed after the suppress ever being hit.
> > > >> My code is in the below Gist - I've hardcoded the durations for 5
> > seconds
> > > >> after testing purposes:
> > > >> https://gist.github.com/LiamClarkeNZ/24121ccf0f09e4530749cbd92633fa46
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm assuming I've misunderstood something drastically, and would
> > greatly
> > > >> appreciate a pointer on where I may have gone wrong. I'm wondering if
> > I
> > > >> need a larger retention on the persistent store?
> > > >>
> > > >> I understand that events have to arrive in order for windows to
> > close, so
> > > >> I've sent events after the window has expired to attempt to move the
> > window
> > > >> on, and my first peek (before the suppression) is emitting as I do:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. 2020-04-15T03:36:48.569Z e2442bef-72bf-4424-b94e-7e4743e03c5e - 1
> > > >> 1. 2020-04-15T03:37:11.682Z e2442bef-72bf-4424-b94e-7e4743e03c5e - 1
> > > >> 1. 2020-04-15T03:39:18.882Z aqgzftnvyn - 1
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>  Any guidance greatfully appreciated.
> > > >>
> > > >> Kind regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> Liam Clarke
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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