Experience shows that most of the interconnect SMS gateway providers fall in Case 3. They have both kinds of connections (direct to SMSC as well as to another SMS interconnect gateway provider). (So it would not be a surprise if you are quoted different prices for different destination networks even in a single country.) Clickatel is one of many such interconnect providers. You will be surprised to know that in certain cases provider X may have tied up with provider B in symbiosis mode i.e. you provide me X destinations which I need and I will provide you Y destinations which you need... makes business sense.
regards,
Jeetendra

Baden de Bari wrote:

Great!  This makes more sense now.  Case 1 would not be a cost effective solution for starting up.  Once we have more traffic and start building more SMS-enabled applications for clients, we could look at Case 1, right?

Case 2 would be cheaper than Case 3, although our selection of networks would be limited to Case 2's one provider, whereas Case 3 may be a little more expensive, but they would offer more networks.

TynTec does not offer all of the same networks that Clickatel offers, but Clickatel is their client.  Is this because TynTec is just ONE SMSC, and Clickatel connects to various SMSC's, allowing them to offer more networks (Case 3) ?



----- Original Message -----
From: Jeetendra Singh
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:48:20 +0530
To: Baden de Bari
Subject: Re: [Kannel-Users] SMS newbie

First of all, for the clarification, please note that Kannel is not a SMS server but its a SMS gateway which inter-connects a SMS client to a SMS server (e.g. SMSC of GSM networks).

Now as regards the TynTec or
clickatel or Mobileway or mobliss or mblox or other such companies which are involved in SMS business, they are not exactly SMSC (of GSM network). These are all "SMS Gateway operators". What I mean is that these firms may themselves be using their SMS gateways to connect to a real SMSC (of a GSM network operator) or may be connecting to another SMS Gateway operator. I hope you get the picture...the entire link may look like below...

Case 1.&nbs p; End Client(like yourself) -->  SMSC
You require a SMS gateway at your end for this to happen. You may use Kannel for this. In this case, you establish a direct connection with SMSC for SMS termination. The only problem is that either the SMSC's GSM network operator may not be able to cater to your destination network or your interface towards the SMSC may not be the one available at your SMS gateway (for ex: it may allow SMTP/HTTP or file based interface whereas if you use Kannel, it can only support a standard UCP/CIMD2/SMPP/SEMA or predefiend HTTP interface only). And also the fact that this is normally a costly affair.

Case 2. End Client (Like yourself) --> SMS interconnect GW(Gateway) Provider  --> SMSC1
                                                                                                             |--------> SMSC2
                                                                                                            l--------->SMSC3

You still requ ire a SMS gateway for this but this is normally a cheaper option. Also you get a lot of options for destination networks because normally in such a case, the middle layer "
SMS interconnect Gateway Provider" has links towards a lot of SMSCs.

Case 3. End Client (Like yourself) --> SMS interconnect GW Provider  --> SMSC1
                                                                                              &nbs p;    |---> SMS  interconnect GW provider1 --> SMSC
                                                                                                   l---> SMS Interconnect GW provider2 --> SMSC
                                         &nbs p;                                                         l---> SMSC2
                                                                                                   l---> and so on

This is what you get when you connect to above mentioned SMS gateway operators like Clickatel or mblox or others. This way these providers can claim of a wide coverage of destination networks while keeping the costs competitive.
 
HTH..
-Jeetendra

Baden de Bari wrote:

Thank you for the info.  I have already looked at Clickatel.  I also found TynTec ( http://www.tyntec.biz/ ).  If you look on their web site, Clickatel is one of their clients.  Why not just go through TynTec instead, or is TynTec a company you would connect to if you were running a SMS server like Kannel?

Thank you.


----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Beckman
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 22:48:38 -0400 (EDT)
To: Baden de Bari
Subject: Re: [Kannel-Users] SMS newbie

> On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, Baden de Bari wrote:
>
> > We are looking to integrate SMS notifications with one of our web
> > applications. Would using Kannel be more efficient (cheaper for us) to
> > use instead of linking director to a provider's API via POST request
> > (such as clickatel.com ) ?
>
> No, you'd still need an SMSC like clickatel or Mobileway or mobliss or
> mblox (in the US).
>
> Paying for a link would be like $500-$1500/month. Is that cheaper? I'd
> bet no, but I dunno.
>
> > Can anyone recommend some SMSC providers that we can link to through an
> > API via HTTP POST? - preferably in North America (Canada) ?
>
> See above.
>
> Beckman
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Peter Beckman Internet Guy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.purplecow.com/
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