No, we're talking about getting the carrier's message id into the equation.

The internal ID is enough in much cases, but if you need to discuss with the
carrier about a particular MT message, having "their" message ID as well
helps a lot. You'll still need you internal ID of course: you cannot
guarantee that the carrier will send you unique identifiers, for example.
Relying on third parties for your own unique ID's is a very bad idea IMHO.

This is not by any means intended to replace the internal ID, just to
complement it for the people that may need to track the carrier's message
ID.

Regards,

Alejandro

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Christian Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  I always put my internal id as a parameter in the dlr url. Is this the
> same thing you guys are talking about? Tracking your own mt messages?
>
> ------------------------------
> From: Alejandro Guerrieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: September 19, 2008 6:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] message_id from submit_sm_response on DLR's
>
>  Kannel uses the message_id internally to track DLR's (otherwise it would
> be impossible to hit the same record twice).
>
> The message_id translates to the "ts" field on the DLR table, my patch only
> makes that field visible on the dlr scope so it can be stored elsewhere
> (e.g. a "sent" table).
>
> What you propose is regarding MO? Of course there's no DLR's for MO (you
> don't need  a delivery report over a message you've just received, do you?
> ;) ).
>
> For MO, the only way I know to track the carrier's ID is the
> "receipted_message_id" TLV, and you should be able to read it by using the
> meta-data patch.
>
> Check the SMPP 3.4 specs and/or ask your carrier for proper values (afaik,
> the tag address is 0x001E and max length is 65 octet-strings, but YMMV).
>
> Regards,
>
> Alejandro
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Ken Bellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Alejandro,
>>
>> This is coming just at the right time for us. It will definitely help
>> us keep track of specific messages sent. Also, i was wondering if
>> there is a way the messages id can be known (or sent back to the url)
>> once the sms has been sent to Kannel!
>>
>> If this is possible, then upon sending, the sender can keep track of
>> the message id, and also update same when Kannel hits the dlr-url
>> again.
>>
>> On 9/19/08, Alejandro Guerrieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Proposed patch adds support for the "%w" key on DLR's, to get the
>> message_id
>> > from the SMSC on SMPP connections.
>> >
>> > Explanation: When Kannel sends an MT over an SMPP connection, a
>> submit_sm
>> > PDU is sent. The carrier responds with a submit_sm_response, carrying a
>> > "message_id" attribute. If we have  proper dlr-mask set, this event (the
>> > carrier accepting the message) causes Kannel to hit the dlr-url (even if
>> the
>> > carrier's not sending DLR's).
>> >
>> > After applying the patch, a new parameter %w could be added to the
>> dlr-url,
>> > which will be loaded with the message_id from the SMSC. This can be
>> useful
>> > to correlate sent messages with the carriers response.
>> >
>> > Here's the patch:
>> >
>> > http://www.magicom-bcn.net/kannel/smpp-response-message-id.patch
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Alejandro
>> >
>>
>>
>>  --
>> Regards,
>> Kenny
>>
>>
>> "Whosoever desires constant success must change his conduct with the
>> times."-Niccolo Machiavelli
>>
>
>

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