Hi

Heard about WURFL ? Wireless Universal Resource File

http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/

Have a look at this...I believe , Using this you cud identify what model of 
phone from which the message is coming, if u read this u can push the 
appropriate format ..Give a try

Good luck

Rgds
Sriram
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Nwaogu 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:10 PM
  Subject: Re: I: imy format to send via SMS


  Hi Mauro,
  The Thing to do would be to ask that the subscribers request for the 
ringtones in the prescribed formats below.

  MONOPHONIC ringtones
  mono <tone code> <phone make>

  POLYPHONIC ringtones
  poly <tone code> <phone make>

  Real ringtones
  real <tone code> <phone make>


  Regards,
  Mike Nwaogu
  Tel: 234_802_325_6437
  Eml: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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  From: Alejandro Guerrieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:33:43 PM
  Subject: Re: I: imy format to send via SMS

  Mauro,

  A few notes:

  1. You won't be able to tell make and model from the incoming SMS. SMS 
protocol doesn't have any means to inform you about the kind of device sending 
the message, so you'll probably have to ask that (by means of some sort of 
interactive menu or similar methods).

  2. Not all models support the same formats, and as I've stated before, there 
are some models that support shorter messages only.

  3. On Kannel source, check on /contrib/web folder, there are some examples on 
sending many different formats (mostly legacy). Despite not having EMS and 
SCKL, the "TUNE" mode uses SmartMessaging and it should serve you as a guide 
about how to implement the other formats.

  That being said, yes, that would work out for legacy phones IMHO.

  Regards,

  Alejandro Guerrieri


  On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:11 AM, mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    ah ok great,
    let me figure out the situation: 
    we are using kannel attached to an SMSC, we are receiving sms from users to 
request contents for thier legacy phone, old nokia old motorola and so on. 
    we have contents for old phones and we need to be able to send back to the 
usr the reuqested content in the format supported by the handset. 
    we have all the info about handset, so accoirding to what u wrote me we 
could
    -) converting contents offline ( maybe using ringtone tools) generating 
different output
    -) mapping the output to the handset model
    - send the generated output to the user hnadset according to the handset

    EMS and SCK  for sure will work , so according to what you wrote we have to 
experiment sending other formats to other handset.

    are EMS and SCK  supported by all the legacy phone? if the user get this 
sms is the handset able to recognize it as a ringtone? maybe we could use only 
this two formats

    thanks
    Mauro






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    Da: Alejandro Guerrieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    A: mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Cc: llista kannel <[email protected]>

    Inviato: Giovedì 13 novembre 2008, 16:50:18

    Oggetto: Re: I: imy format to send via SMS


    Mauro,

    What's the format you want to send? EMS?

    EMS is a "container" to send other formats. For example, E/IMY, and 
E/IMELODY, which are text formats. EMS was widely supported by Motorola, 
Siemens, Alcatel and other brands (Nokia had his SmartMessaging protocol so 
most Nokias doesn't support it). The only main difference is that 
older/crippled models didn't support more than 128 bytes of data, nor multipart 
messages (EMS does support sending the data in more than one message with 
proper headers added).

    For old Nokias, you may use SCKL, which is a text-based format, capable of 
multipart as well, or "nokia" (SmartMessaging).p

    You'll have to experiment a little to get EMS and SCKL working, but Kannel 
can deliver it with no problems.

    Regards,

    Alejandro Guerrieri


    On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:10 AM, mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

      yes it can helps 
      the only point is that ringtone tools have the following out type
      which is for binary transcoding? 
      the transcoded file can be used for evry mobile? or we have different 
formats for different handsets?

      -outtype <output type> [ 
3210/bmp/dsp/emelody,emy/ems/gif/ico,icon/imelody,imy/kws/midi,mid/mot/nol,ngg/nokia,sckl,ott/pdb/rtttl/rtx/samsung1/samsung2/siemens/seo/text,txt/wav/wbmp
 ]




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      Da: Alejandro Guerrieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      A: mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      Cc: llista kannel <[email protected]>
      Inviato: Mercoledì 12 novembre 2008, 17:06:17
      Oggetto: Re: I: imy format to send via SMS


      Try with ringtonetools, it can convert from/to a lot of formats, 
including IMY and EMS.

      http://ringtonetools.mikekohn.net/

      Hope it helps,

      Alejandro Guerrieri


      On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM, mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





        Hi Mike,
        thanks for you replay. 
        is there any script that does this work? 
        if we are different format of the source file ( imy, ott) should we 
change the script?

        I think that the conversione can be done also offline, i mean , i can 
get the imy file ( or the ott ) pass it to the script and obtain the the file 
converted to send via kannel, am i right?
        this solutioin could be used to convert one time every file and send it 
many times withoud trascoding  it on the fly, am not sure if we need to chenge 
the trascoding accoirding to teh mobile handset.







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        Da: Mike Nwaogu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        A: [email protected]
        Inviato: Mercoledì 12 novembre 2008, 15:06:37
        Oggetto: Re: imy format to send via SMS


        Hi Mauro,
        Kannel doesn't do any conversions.
        You can send imy files as EMS, you'll need to do some conversions 
though.

        You'll need a script that can convert those imy content to a HEX string 
and send it with the udh of the message caculated and setup. Set


        Regards,
        Mike Nwaogu
        Tel: 234_802_325_6437






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        From: mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:48:57 PM
        Subject: imy format to send via SMS


        we are using kannel and we would like to send 
        some content for legacy phone via SMS, we ahve different source file 
for example imy, ott etc.
        can we send this content through kannel directly or we have to convert 
them in binary?

        if binary conversion if needed how can we do? does kannel support 
conversion?

        thanks




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