Dear Friends: I didn't know about smpp, I am researching the term, but basically, how can this be considered the equivalent of a direct line to a carrier?... Meaning I can call a wireless carrier and ask for an "smpp line"? Do carriers provide these services? How come I call the carriers and nobody seems to know what I am asking them?
Thanks a lot CS -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: users Digest, Vol 52, Issue 8 Send users mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.kannel.org/mailman/listinfo/users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Use of Kannel for massive SMS Messaging? (Abdul Basit) 2. Re: Use of Kannel for massive SMS Messaging? (Nikos Balkanas) 3. Re: Use of Kannel for massive SMS Messaging? (Praveena Sarathchandra) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 12:06:01 +0500 From: Abdul Basit <[email protected]> To: Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]> Cc: "C. Savinovich" <[email protected]>, users <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Use of Kannel for massive SMS Messaging? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We tested kannel with 120 sms/sec, the max limit our provider opened for us. we are directly connected with one smsc only. I think we can achieve more. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi > > You can get a direct link to your carrier; but due to costs, you will > need a high volume per month to be cost effective; Also, you will need > to have one link per carrier since normally carriers will not forward > sms into their SMPP links to another carrier. They will do if usinf a > sim card (long code) > > An option would be to work with an agregator. > > You dont need to have any special multitheading for connect kannel to > several modems/links; kannel will doit for you, You only need to > define as much SMSC's in its configuration as yu need/have. As stated > below; I do have over 30 links with one bearerbox; > > It is however possible to split your traffic between several kannel > instances/boxes. > > Regards > > Alvaro > > > > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------| > Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier > celular y Nextel > en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via > SMS y GPRS online > Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y > www.pravcom.com > > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 2:52 PM, C. Savinovich > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Thank you very much Alvaro, excuse these 2 dumb questions: > > > > 1) If the carrier provides you with a contract, why can't they just > provide > > you with an API and receive a text file, or a web service access, or even > a > > dedicated T1, or anything that will take seconds to transfer all the > > messages directly into the carrier's network? isn't it a better idea than > > using 20 modems? > > > > 2) I have seen people having to employ sophisticated multi-threading to > > handle 20 modems at the same time, granted, in .net... If I use > > Linux/Kannel, will all I need is one Kannel session, with Linux handling > all > > the multi-tasking?, or should I have to setup 20 concurrent Kannel > > instances? > > > > Many thanks > > C. Savinovich > > > > > > > > On December 6, 2010 at 2:29 PM Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> The real throughput will depend on MANY factors so it is diffcult to > >> give you a number; but in general, the bottle neck is -using a medium > >> hardware- the carrier. > >> > >> We have over 30 "SMSC" connected to my kannel box. AT, SMPP, Http, > >> agregators, propietary ones, etc with no problems. We do have over 20 > >> modems connected to a single kannel machine through some terminal > >> servers. The troughput of them is in average of 480-500sms/hr > >> > >> We do have special plans with the carriers to send high volume of sms > >> through them, so we have no problems with the carriers blocking the > >> sims. > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Alvaro > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------| > >> Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier > >> celular y Nextel > >> en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via > >> SMS y GPRS online > >> Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y > >> www.pravcom.com > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:56 AM, C. Savinovich > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Hello everyone, I have used Kannel before, but I still considered > myself > >> > a > >> > newbie since I have not deployed a system that would really send > >> > thousands > >> > of messages per day. I have set systems with tops 2 USB modems. I > have > >> > a > >> > few questions, and will really appreciate if someone can help with > this > >> > very > >> > crucial information. The goal is to setup a system with capacity of > ten > >> > thousand messages per day. > >> > > >> > 1) I find it hard to believe this is done by connecting 10 sms modems > to > >> > the > >> > USB ports of a linux server. I even can not conceive of being able to > >> > buy a > >> > $30 unlimited text messaging account, and send through it, one text > >> > message > >> > every 30 seconds 24/7 without a carrier blocking the chip. Besides, > the > >> > whole idea of working with literally a row of wireless modems in a > colo > >> > is > >> > so prone to failure (chips having to be replaced, all the time, etc), > >> > that I > >> > can only think that the way this is done at massive scale, is via a > >> > direct > >> > API connection to the cellular carrier. Of course there is option of > >> > the > >> > third party provider, but I wouldn't be using kannel, nor asking these > >> > questions if I wanted to use a third party provider. > >> > - How is this done in real life? > >> > - what is the maximum capacity of a Kannel server? > >> > - how many modems can in reality be placed in the same server?... > >> > - Is linux enough to handle the multi-processing, or will I have to > >> > write a > >> > real multi-threading application in house? > >> > > >> > Thank you very much guys > >> > Chris Savinovich > >> > > > > > -- Regards, Abdul Basit | +92 32 1416 4196 | +92 30 0841 1445 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.kannel.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20101207/212568d6/attachm ent-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 11:13:38 +0200 From: "Nikos Balkanas" <[email protected]> To: "Abdul Basit" <[email protected]>, "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]> Cc: users <[email protected]>, "C. Savinovich" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Use of Kannel for massive SMS Messaging? Message-ID: <7f81330dc7e84cd491ee424ce7245...@drwho> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1253"; reply-type=original Hi, Benching kannel with fakesmpp, I was able to get ~740 MT/s (minimal SMS size) with internal dlrs and 450 MT/s using dlr db, on a low-end 64bit Solaris 10 with a dual-core AMD Opteron CPU @1218 uHz. BR, Nikos ----- Original Message ----- From: Abdul Basit To: Alvaro Cornejo Cc: C. Savinovich ; users Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Use of Kannel for massive SMS Messaging? We tested kannel with 120 sms/sec, the max limit our provider opened for us. we are directly connected with one smsc only. I think we can achieve more. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]> wrote: Hi You can get a direct link to your carrier; but due to costs, you will need a high volume per month to be cost effective; Also, you will need to have one link per carrier since normally carriers will not forward sms into their SMPP links to another carrier. They will do if usinf a sim card (long code) An option would be to work with an agregator. You dont need to have any special multitheading for connect kannel to several modems/links; kannel will doit for you, You only need to define as much SMSC's in its configuration as yu need/have. As stated below; I do have over 30 links with one bearerbox; It is however possible to split your traffic between several kannel instances/boxes. Regards Alvaro |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------| Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier celular y Nextel en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via SMS y GPRS online Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y www.pravcom.com On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 2:52 PM, C. Savinovich <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you very much Alvaro, excuse these 2 dumb questions: > > 1) If the carrier provides you with a contract, why can't they just > provide > you with an API and receive a text file, or a web service access, or even > a > dedicated T1, or anything that will take seconds to transfer all the > messages directly into the carrier's network? isn't it a better idea than > using 20 modems? > > 2) I have seen people having to employ sophisticated multi-threading to > handle 20 modems at the same time, granted, in .net... If I use > Linux/Kannel, will all I need is one Kannel session, with Linux handling > all > the multi-tasking?, or should I have to setup 20 concurrent Kannel > instances? > > Many thanks > C. Savinovich > > > > On December 6, 2010 at 2:29 PM Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> The real throughput will depend on MANY factors so it is diffcult to >> give you a number; but in general, the bottle neck is -using a medium >> hardware- the carrier. >> >> We have over 30 "SMSC" connected to my kannel box. AT, SMPP, Http, >> agregators, propietary ones, etc with no problems. We do have over 20 >> modems connected to a single kannel machine through some terminal >> servers. The troughput of them is in average of 480-500sms/hr >> >> We do have special plans with the carriers to send high volume of sms >> through them, so we have no problems with the carriers blocking the >> sims. >> >> Regards >> >> Alvaro >> >> >> >> >> >> |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------| >> Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier >> celular y Nextel >> en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via >> SMS y GPRS online >> Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y >> www.pravcom.com >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:56 AM, C. Savinovich >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hello everyone, I have used Kannel before, but I still considered >> > myself >> > a >> > newbie since I have not deployed a system that would really send >> > thousands >> > of messages per day. I have set systems with tops 2 USB modems. I have >> > a >> > few questions, and will really appreciate if someone can help with this >> > very >> > crucial information. The goal is to setup a system with capacity of ten >> > thousand messages per day. >> > >> > 1) I find it hard to believe this is done by connecting 10 sms modems >> > to >> > the >> > USB ports of a linux server. I even can not conceive of being able to >> > buy a >> > $30 unlimited text messaging account, and send through it, one text >> > message >> > every 30 seconds 24/7 without a carrier blocking the chip. Besides, >> > the >> > whole idea of working with literally a row of wireless modems in a colo >> > is >> > so prone to failure (chips having to be replaced, all the time, etc), >> > that I >> > can only think that the way this is done at massive scale, is via a >> > direct >> > API connection to the cellular carrier. Of course there is option of >> > the >> > third party provider, but I wouldn't be using kannel, nor asking these >> > questions if I wanted to use a third party provider. >> > - How is this done in real life? >> > - what is the maximum capacity of a Kannel server? >> > - how many modems can in reality be placed in the same server?... >> > - Is linux enough to handle the multi-processing, or will I have to >> > write a >> > real multi-threading application in house? >> > >> > Thank you very much guys >> > Chris Savinovich >> > > -- Regards, Abdul Basit | +92 32 1416 4196 | +92 30 0841 1445 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:01:44 +0530 From: Praveena Sarathchandra <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Use of Kannel for massive SMS Messaging? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" @Savinovish: Thanks a lot for bringing up a question like this. I'm also a newbie and was about to mail a similar question to this group. I'll follow your mails in the future to get to know about your progress. @ All: I'd really appreciate if you people can share what kind of "devices" that you have deployed in your SMS gateways for mass messaging. Especially modem types and other server specs. Are there any tutorials I can follow for setting up a efficient SMS gateway? Thanks in advance Best Regards, Praveena J. Sarathchandra Freelance Web Designer/Developer [...@] [email protected] [M] +94-77-6275266 [W] www.myBiz.lk 2010/12/7 Nikos Balkanas <[email protected]> > Hi, > > Benching kannel with fakesmpp, I was able to get ~740 MT/s (minimal SMS > size) with internal dlrs and 450 MT/s using dlr db, on a low-end 64bit > Solaris 10 with a dual-core AMD Opteron CPU @1218 uHz. > > BR, > Nikos > ----- Original Message ----- From: Abdul Basit > To: Alvaro Cornejo > Cc: C. Savinovich ; users > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: Use of Kannel for massive SMS Messaging? > > > > We tested kannel with 120 sms/sec, the max limit our provider opened for > us. > we are directly connected with one smsc only. > I think we can achieve more. > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi > > You can get a direct link to your carrier; but due to costs, you will > need a high volume per month to be cost effective; Also, you will need > to have one link per carrier since normally carriers will not forward > sms into their SMPP links to another carrier. They will do if usinf a > sim card (long code) > > An option would be to work with an agregator. > > You dont need to have any special multitheading for connect kannel to > several modems/links; kannel will doit for you, You only need to > define as much SMSC's in its configuration as yu need/have. As stated > below; I do have over 30 links with one bearerbox; > > It is however possible to split your traffic between several kannel > instances/boxes. > > > Regards > > Alvaro > > > > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------| > Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier > celular y Nextel > en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via > > SMS y GPRS online > Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y > www.pravcom.com > > > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 2:52 PM, C. Savinovich > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > Thank you very much Alvaro, excuse these 2 dumb questions: >> >> 1) If the carrier provides you with a contract, why can't they just >> provide >> you with an API and receive a text file, or a web service access, or even >> a >> dedicated T1, or anything that will take seconds to transfer all the >> messages directly into the carrier's network? isn't it a better idea than >> using 20 modems? >> >> 2) I have seen people having to employ sophisticated multi-threading to >> handle 20 modems at the same time, granted, in .net... If I use >> Linux/Kannel, will all I need is one Kannel session, with Linux handling >> all >> the multi-tasking?, or should I have to setup 20 concurrent Kannel >> instances? >> >> Many thanks >> C. Savinovich >> >> >> >> On December 6, 2010 at 2:29 PM Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> >> Hi >>> >>> The real throughput will depend on MANY factors so it is diffcult to >>> give you a number; but in general, the bottle neck is -using a medium >>> hardware- the carrier. >>> >>> We have over 30 "SMSC" connected to my kannel box. AT, SMPP, Http, >>> agregators, propietary ones, etc with no problems. We do have over 20 >>> modems connected to a single kannel machine through some terminal >>> servers. The troughput of them is in average of 480-500sms/hr >>> >>> We do have special plans with the carriers to send high volume of sms >>> through them, so we have no problems with the carriers blocking the >>> sims. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Alvaro >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------| >>> Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier >>> celular y Nextel >>> en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via >>> >>> SMS y GPRS online >>> Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y >>> www.pravcom.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:56 AM, C. Savinovich >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Hello everyone, I have used Kannel before, but I still considered > >>> myself >>> > a >>> > newbie since I have not deployed a system that would really send >>> > thousands >>> > of messages per day. I have set systems with tops 2 USB modems. I have >>> > a >>> > few questions, and will really appreciate if someone can help with this >>> > very >>> > crucial information. The goal is to setup a system with capacity of ten >>> > thousand messages per day. >>> > >>> > 1) I find it hard to believe this is done by connecting 10 sms modems > >>> to >>> > the >>> > USB ports of a linux server. I even can not conceive of being able to >>> > buy a >>> > $30 unlimited text messaging account, and send through it, one text >>> > message >>> > every 30 seconds 24/7 without a carrier blocking the chip. Besides, > >>> the >>> > whole idea of working with literally a row of wireless modems in a colo >>> > is >>> > so prone to failure (chips having to be replaced, all the time, etc), >>> > that I >>> > can only think that the way this is done at massive scale, is via a >>> > direct >>> > API connection to the cellular carrier. Of course there is option of >>> > the >>> > third party provider, but I wouldn't be using kannel, nor asking these >>> > questions if I wanted to use a third party provider. >>> > - How is this done in real life? >>> > - what is the maximum capacity of a Kannel server? >>> > - how many modems can in reality be placed in the same server?... >>> > - Is linux enough to handle the multi-processing, or will I have to >>> > write a >>> > real multi-threading application in house? >>> > >>> > Thank you very much guys >>> > Chris Savinovich >>> > >>> >> >> > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Abdul Basit | +92 32 1416 4196 | +92 30 0841 1445 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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