Hi,
 
  1) is a easy option to do but there is a catch. The SNMP index can't be 
longer than 128 bytes, now if we increase the SU name the component name
will become very big. This will cause the entries in the saAmfSCompCsiTable 
table to be not accessible as they will be larger than 128. So we
had to keep the names to the smallest possible. We still can maybe have a 
unique marker for openSAF SUs which is small, that should
solve the problem.
 
Regards
Sugadeesh


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        From: Ingvar Bergström [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:34 PM
        To: Gudipalli S.-G19449; [email protected]
        Subject: RE: [Users] saAmfSUSITableEntry not empty after LOCK
        
        
        Hi,
        even if there is no major issue it is still confusing. There is not 
better to maintain lists of possible application SUs per node in a cluster. If 
OpenSAF components does not behave as "normal" components (from the operator 
view) it should be indicated which type of component each component is.
        To my opinion there are two solutions:
        1) Give the OpenSAF SUs names which could easily be identified e.g.. 
safSu=SuT_OpenSaf_CPND. In such case the operator/script/program can easily see 
that there is no application SI left.
        2) Remove OpenSAF SUs from the saAmfSUSITableEntry when the node is 
locked i.e let the OpenSAF components behave as normal application components 
to the operator.
         
        Regards
        Ingvar
        
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        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Gudipalli S.-G19449
        Sent: den 15 oktober 2007 10:34
        To: Ingvar Bergström; [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [Users] saAmfSUSITableEntry not empty after LOCK
        
        
        Hi,
         
           The operator can easily write a script for identifying the 
applications SUs on a node. I said SUs not SIs. The operator script need not 
track SIs, it
        needs to track only application SUs. He can easily search the SUSI 
table as you had done with this SU list to see that none have SI assignment.
        I don't see any major issue from scripting perspective, yes if he has 
to do manually then it is work. 
         
        Regards
        Sugadeesh


________________________________

                From: Ingvar Bergström [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 12:33 PM
                To: Gudipalli S.-G19449; [email protected]
                Subject: RE: [Users] saAmfSUSITableEntry not empty after LOCK
                
                
                Hi,
                I suspected it was designed that way. I think it would be 
confusing for the operator to keep lists over SIs which are not excpected to 
move. It will be different lists for the two node types and possibly for 
different OpenSAF releases. Or (even worse) to keep lists over the applications 
SIs. This will also make it difficult to write scripts/programs helping the 
operator to perform different tasks in the cluster since the SI lists must be 
known to the script/program.
                 
                Regards
                Ingvar

________________________________

                From: Gudipalli S.-G19449 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                Sent: den 15 oktober 2007 08:29
                To: Ingvar Bergström; [email protected]
                Subject: RE: [Users] saAmfSUSITableEntry not empty after LOCK
                
                
                Hi,
                 
                   It is by design that openSAF components are treated 
differently from application. All the AMF commands are applicable to 
application components
                and not to openSAF components(SG,SU). This is required, if 
openSAF goes OOS the node will become un manageable from openSAF perspective. 
                 
                The operator can get the list of all the application SUs on the 
node and verify that they all lost SI assignments to identify if the node lock 
is
                successful.
                 
                Regards
                Sugadeesh


________________________________

                        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Ingvar Bergström
                        Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:35 AM
                        To: [email protected]
                        Subject: [Users] saAmfSUSITableEntry not empty after 
LOCK
                        
                        

                        Hi, 
                        the saAmfSUSITableEntry will newer become empty after a 
LOCK operation. The "normal" SI's are moved away but the OpenSAF SI's are not 
(see the payload node example below).

                        This will cause problems for e.g. the operator to 
decide when the node is locked since the saAmfSUSITableEntry is assumed to 
become emty.

                        SC_2_1# snmpset -c public -v 2c localhost 
saAmfNodeAdminState.\"safNode=PL_2_3\" i 1 

                        SC_2_1# snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 2c localhost 
saAmfSUSITableEntry.saAmfSUSISGName | grep safNode=PL_2_3 
                        
saAmfSUSISGName."safSu=SuT_CPND,safNode=PL_2_3"."safSi=Si_CPND5" = STRING: 
safSg=SG_CPND 
                        
saAmfSUSISGName."safSu=SuT_IFND,safNode=PL_2_3"."safSi=Si_IFND5" = STRING: 
safSg=SG_IFND 
                        
saAmfSUSISGName."safSu=SuT_NCS_PLD,safNode=PL_2_3"."safSi=Si_PLD6" = STRING: 
safSg=SG_NCS_ND_PLD 

                        Regards 
                        Ingvar 

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